Maybe they’re just finally going to give him a bath. Because, Cylon Jesus? is lookin’ nasty dirty lately what with the greasy hair and scruffy beard. And he probably smells, too.
Actually, I think I read a comment from Moore admitting they’d filmed it as a dream sequence. Been reading lots of BSG stuff around the net lately, not sure where I saw that…possibly in a link to a Chicago Tribune story…
The Tick, “Tick vs. Arthur”, at the vet’s office after Baron Violent threw a chunk of pavement at Speak the Wonder Dog (capybara):
“Bad Man…hit dog…with STREET!”
Do I win something?
both you and Pigs In Space (post # 74) win a Six-Pack of Honesty Cola, preferred by Meatbag Toasters galaxywide… 
They never explicitly explain it, I don’t believe. My impression has been that there are cylons who are primarily organic (the human-form models), and there are cylons that are primarily mechanical (centurions, raiders) but with some organic components. I took the hybrid to be a hybrid of these two design philosophies. She’s an organic body fused with a mechanical entity – the base star. I’m assuming quite a bit, but it seems plausible to me.
Thanks. Still, the hybrids have seen something (according to this episode) that has made them insane. I’m not sure how their hybrid status allowed them to do that.
re: the “fab5”… was discussing this with a coworker…
When Baltar asked 6 about the other 5, she said “we don’t speak of them, and something about them being ‘boxed’”.
Then D’anna started her death experiences of seeing “something between life and death”, and recently seeing the “faces of the 5” and calling them “revered”, etc…
AFAIK, no one other than D’anna has reffered to them as anything other than the “other boxed 5”, and d’anna stuff was primarily “during the upload sequence”…
IOW, only D’anna seems to refer to them as anything special…
If they are boxed in the same manner (in the goo) as D’anna was shown to be… perhaps their “conciousness” is in the resurection system…if another was to start having the same visions during, I bet they would see 6 figures instead of 5.
I figure its a shared memory pool, and D’anna’s code overran the buffers or something.
IOW, the writers haven’t changed anything about the 5, just different perceptions of them… they were boxed for “not going along with the plan” like d’anna was, so the others probably see her as they see d’anna - unstable and sick - not as something special.
it’s possible that the one D’anna apologized to is no one that we know, but just another model that she had a hand in the boxing of, and now she sees what that particular one saw.
The correlation with the “5” from the temple might just be coincidence…but then we still dont know enough of the myths to know who the “Lords” were or how those 12 map to our Cylon 12.
make sense?
simster, are you sure that anyone on the show refered to the Final Five as being “boxed”? Because I don’t remember that, and the general concensus among BSG-fanatics is that it’s a meme that got picked up from Internet speculation (spoilers of D’Anna’s fate got crosswired with speculation about where the Final Five were).
I’d be interested in checking out what was said if the five - boxed thing turns out to be canonical.
That’s what I recall, during the initail conversation with Caprica 6 by Baltar where he asks about why he seen no other models on New Caprica… pretty sure he’s on the base star at that point.
I’m sure someone out there will have the quotes…
well, this interview seems to kill part of my theory:
I just watched this last night. Some quick thoughts:
Who did D’anna see? It doesn’t matter. Under her cover as a reporter, she met thousands of people, and would likely recognize most of them. Who she saw isn’t necessarily anyone we’ve seen on-screen before.
Boomer’s about-face with the evil baby-killing seemed weird at first, but then I remembered she’s been babysitting an infant since last year. That’s enough to make Mother Teresa snap.
They seemed to play fast and loose with the resurrection thing.
Was Caprica Six on the Basestar, then shuttling over to the Res-ship to pick up Athena, then shuttling over to visit Pop-Tart? The Res-ship was obviously not in orbit around Pond Scum World - so how did the Galactica react to a Cylon heavy raider warping in and out during the standoff?
Athena’s resurrection seemed to span somewhere on the order of minutes, if not seconds. I thought it was established that this process took some actual, you know, time. Oh, and Athena’s new body no longer has Pop-Tart’s antibodies in the blood.
How was Athena able to prevent the Cylons from reading (and making copies of) her mind while she resurrected? Adama’s and Roslyn’s concerns about security can’t be blown off by “she promised it couldn’t happen.”
The worst part of this episode is - the humans are still starving. I didn’t get the impression that they took enough algae off the planet to stave off the crisis that drove them there in the first place.
I loved the ending - Baltar and Cap-Six are now both prisoners on the Galactica. Is Six a turncoat, or along just for the ride? How will this affect the relationship between her and Baltar?
“Welcome back Mr. President.” - THWACK. Tee hee hee.
With any luck, it will affect the relationship by having Baltar suggest her as a character witness – and then be absolutely dismayed when she testifies to his actual character. (i.e., that he has no moral character)
I think the fleet is doing OK on food now. Think there was a line about how they’d been harvesting for about 3 weeks before the Cylons jumped in. That oughta give them enough to last a little while.
Who did Xenabot see? That’s the hottest question on the net these days. All sorts of theories out there. Starbuck is a contender–we know something major happens to her in the next few episodes (the key episode will be called Maelstrom, I think). We know Leoben told her she has a destiny, and she’s heard the same from elsewhere. There’s the whole thing with her channeling the artwork from the temple back when she was on Caprica. There’s the never really explained “How the hell did she not only steal a heavy raider, but fly it through intricate combat manuevers” thing. There’s my strong impression that whoever Xenabot apologized to was a woman—but I don’t think it’s gonna be Starbuck. Whatever else she may be, a Cylon just ain’t it.
Other contenders: Pres. Rosilyn–maybe. I’ve been reading lots of summaries and such of older episodes, and she’s done quite a few things that make ya wonder. Definitely an element of darkness to her character, but something she often keeps hidden. Dunno that a Cylon would have had cancer, though.
Anders? Could be. He has shown exceptional athletic ability and stamina. Has a somewhat vague past, all we really know is that he was a former pro athlete.
Dee? I doubt it. Think if she was a cylon, she woulda kicked Lee’s cheating butt by now.
Baltar? Could very well be, but then ya gotta wonder if he is, why would they build it the way they have? Especially the dream sequence we know will be shown soon. Now if he turns out to be a cylon, it’s not really a surprise. Might make a better story if he turns out to be only human…
Blanders is Ander’s nickname.
Originally I assumed it was humanoid + machine, but now I’m not so sure. Raiders and Centurions are basically hybrids too.
I’ll have to rewatch the episode, but I got the impression Hybrids were designed to tap into those spooky mystical places where, for instance, the final five goof off between death and resurrection. It’s assumed this drove the Hybrids mad but as Baltar suspects, they’re not quite so qwazy after all. The Hybrids remind me a bit of Guild Navigators in Dune. They get all doped up on Melange and can figure out how to fold space, but they don’t make very entertaining conversationalists.
Yeah, they do. It looks to me like they have resurrection equipment & spare bodies on Basestars, but maybe they need a resurrection ship around to act as a transceiver, and perhaps to actually grow/build the bodies.
Well, they techno-babbled their way all over that whole virus thing. It may have had a “bio-electric feedback component” which would transfer along with the consciousness during resurrection. So why couldn’t the antibodies do the same? Ron Moore said he wouldn’t techno-babble his way around cool-sounding plot points the way Star Trek does but I guess sometimes you just gotta techno-babble a little.
Hmmm. If that’s true, then what’s to keep the Pop-Tart’s antibodies from spreading amongst the Cylons like they feared the virus would? But I bet RDM wouldn’t go down this path, it’s a little too self-consistent.
Plus Dee getting to slap Starbuck and Starbuck’s, “Ooh, I’m gonna murdelize ya” look.
I was pretty bored, to tell you the truth. Maybe it’s just because I’m tired and had a bad day but the acting fell flat for me. Especially mancakes Tanimoh trying to act really really sad about his baby. Tricia Helfer, unholy beautiful but Makeup Artist, please stop washing her out with those pink lipglosses and orangey tans…she’s beginning to actually look a bit plastic/cancer patient in shots (is it just me, or were her tits bigger in the first season?). Everyone needs a lip gloss makeover, actually, this whole nude lips with no counterbalancing eye makeup theme is beginning to wear thin on me. I keep wanting to walk through the screen and give everyone a woolly muffler to get some colour back. Also, she actually looked a bit peaky coming off the Raptor, used to look more athletic, I think.
Boomer-Sharon still has PTSD, whatevs.
I yawned throughout most of it. I think mancakes should have unloaded a “you stupid bitch” on the Regal Queen during her soliloquy of hypocrisy, that might have livened things up a bit.
Supernova, final five blahblahblah. If Kara Thrace turns out to be the Cylon god I’m going to set my DVD set on fire.
I think I’m beginning to get spoiled on the quality of HBO shows…this episode was a snoozefest.
Don’t forget to crucify Ron Moore upside down and pour the molten DVD into his nostrils. And be quick about it, there will be many of us in line.
IIRC, they’d been harvesting on the Algae Planet for ~3 weeks. That’s probably enough time for them to have harvested enough green slime to restart their food processors. Apparently, they don’t normally need to stop and top off the food tanks, so they’re probably okay.
Only one possibility I can see…
You don’t need a resurrection ship to successfully download. Think about the shape of the Res-Ship. Looks (to me) like a big antenna. I think that they can resurrect on a regular Basestar - but that is only very short range.
Makes sense to me, anyways. Remember that when Boomer did her first download she was on Caprica. Caprica certainly wasn’t a res-ship.
-Joe