Of course, she was also very responsible for the slow death from radiation poisoning for millions of people. 
Oh yes, she also seemed to get quite a kick out of toying with and beating the shit out of Starbuck. She pretty clearly could have put Starbuck down quickly, but played with her like a cat with a mouse. She does not appear to have problems with violence against women, so long as she’s not the recipient.
Naturally. A lot of things people find objectionable when others do it aren’t so bad when they do it (rape and murder taking this idea to an extreme, of course).
Lots of people: People shouldn’t cheat on their taxes! It’s wrong! Well, sure I do it, but that’s only because my taxes are so much of a burden. Don’t lecture me on what would happen if everyone did it! I’m not saying everyone should do it! That would destroy the government. I’m saying that it’s okay for me and only me to do it! Why are you so stupid you can’t see the difference?
-Joe, takes the fifth
And don’t forget torture.
Baltar’s-head-Six was shocked and appalled when she saw Pegasus-Six beaten and broken on the floor of her cell, but Caprica-Six showed no remorse in treating the women of Caprica as baby-factory cattle, or in slapping Caprica-Boomer around.
Unanswered question: How did the Pegasus identify their Six as a Cylon?
Well they may have seen more than one copy of six and just realized that she is a Cylon.
Why can’t the President or the Council of 12 promote Adama to Admiral and or demote Cain.
And what the hell is it"
Cane
Kane (Is her first name Kandy)
Cain
Caine
Kainetty (the tty is silent)
IIRC, the Admiral’s Raptor was escorted by 2+ Vipers when they came over to Galactica. All enter the landing bay and the Raptor peels off to an landing elevator while the Vipers continue ahead to land in the “Viper trap”. Later we see the Pegasus Vipers in the hanger with one having the 48 kill markings.
Wonder why the Raptors are VTOL while the Vipers have to land at high speed?
I say they should have skipped the “how did you get here” talk in Adama’s cabin and gone right to “here’s who we have identified as Cylons, who have you identified?”
They play different roles. The Vipers fly very fast and shoot at other folks.
The raptors land on planets, make jumps, transport people and things between ships.
Vipers are F14s, Raptors are helicopters.
Why would they jump to that conclusion? Baltar knew Cylons looked human because Six told him so. Adama only found out because Leoben told him so. They waited some time before telling the rest of the Galactica fleet of this little wrinkle. Why would anyone on board the Pegasus suspect Cylons look human?
Unless I’m forgetting something, this was the first time that Baltar admitted his love for Six. That seems to be quite a milestone for him.
the act of rape has nothing to do with the victim at all, it never has. rape only tells us about the rapist or in this case a large protion of the pegasus crew.
I think there can be a distinction between legal authority and actual power. In this country, we have been fortunate in that the legal authority and actual power of the civilian President over the armed forces have remained congruent; when Truman (at the time not even that popular a president) fired MacArthur (a highly decorated and charismatic general), MacArthur stayed fired and didn’t mount a coup or anything like that. However, if the entire country were devastated in a nuclear war, and the American population were reduced to a relative handful of people escaped in a ragtag fleet of fishing vessels, a container ship or two, and maybe a cruise ship, all under the protection of the last remaining U.S. aircraft carrier, the dynamics between the commander of that warship and the ex-Secretary of Education might be rather different than what the relationship between the President of the United States and the armed fordces had been before the war.
My guess is that Adama’s actions in refusing the president’s orders, let alone deposing her, were definitely illegal, unconstitutional, contrary to the Articles of Colonization, or however you want to put it; whereas she would, strictly speaking, be within her rights to order him around, micromange and meddle in his military decision-making (whether or not it would be wise to do so), relieve him of command, etc. But, under the circumstances, he’s got all the guns.
I just now finally got around to watching this episode. I don’t have anything to add to the discussion, other than:
DAMN! :eek: :eek:
What a great show.
Great show.
Right, didn’t Cally get 30 days in the brig for discharging a firearm or something?
I thought it was interesting that Baltar told the PegaSix that “he couldn’t stop thinking about” his Six. Was that an indication that he now believes that she’s only a figment of his imagination? And if she is, then her horror at seeing PegaSix was really Baltar’s horror projected onto her. It was how he would imagine her to react.
I didn’t like Baltar’s character at first (I kept calling him Dr. Smith) but he keeps getting more interesting.
I believe it was “unauthorized discharge of a firearm”.
The fact that a Cylon caught the bullet seemed unimportant.
-Joe
It occurred to me last night that the Pegasus’s violence toward Six could be the spur needed to turn Baltar fully against the humans (until now, he has basically been riding the fence for self-preservation). They are clearly mirroring some of the themes from the old show - Baltar going fully evil could be one of them.
Perhaps one six walked into a room and blew something up like a suicide bomber. Then another six does it, then another. Or maybe this one was caught in the act and confessed to being a Cylon. (note the bruises on her)
A couple years ago, when I heard the SciFi Channel was planning a new version of “Battlestar Galactica”, I thought they were really hitting the skids. I’ve seldom been more pleasantly suprised.
Of course, the show benefits from the better space shows that have appeared in the couple of decades between the old show and the new, such as “Babylon Five”, “Farscape” and “Firefly”. In “Firefly” especially, we started seeing some tricks to lend verisimilitude to CGI space scenes: zooms, “flares”, having to pull objects into focus, quick tracking shots, etc. These all add to the impression of filming real objects with a camera in space. “Battlestar Galactica” used these techniques from the very beginning of the miniseries pilot, and continues to do great space scenes. At the end of the season closer, we see Vipers launch from Pegasus, and have a point-of-view from the Viper squadron as it approaches the fleet, with Galactica some kilometers away in mid-view. Then there’s a quick zoom that shows us the Raptor and Vipers heading our way from Galactica. Even if the story weren’t interesting, the show is great to look at.
(Incidentally, do the crew refer to their ship as “Galactica” or “the Galactica”?)