Or they’re just creating another Starbuck humping opportunity to excite the masses. Because, you know, she’s EDGY and slightly CRAZY, and she’ll just sex people like dat.
Which four? I’ve tried to count and I always end up with more than that.
- Aaron Doral
- Lieutenant Junior Grade Sharon “Boomer” Valerii
- Leoben Conoy
- Number Six
Aaron was the PR director, Leoben was the one in the pilot and the one Starbuck interrogated, thats all we have seen so far.
I’m pretty sure the 12 models is only the human form Cylon, the toasters are not counted.
I just realized we haven’t had a reveal of a human form since the pilot!
That we have seen, I agree. But what about the ones on the Olympic Carrier?
Whoa, what an ep, just when you think the show can’t possibly get better…
Callie’s got a major set of mivonks on her, taking out Meatbag-Boomer like that, sort of poetic justice that M-B met the same fate as her target (Adama), except it looks like M-B is toast (pun intended 
) i don’t think they canreally call Cylon Service Provider Support (CSPS) and order her up a new power supply, i just hope they sprung for the Cylon ToasterCare extended warranty, however, i doubt gunshot wounds are covered by the warranty, probably classed as “End User Damage (Abuse)” and not covered…
I loved the “bookend” endings, the shot of Chief’s drops of blood hitting the deckplates at the opening, and MeatBoomer’s hitting the deck at the end
…so does this mean we get to scream “Racist!” whenever someone uses the “T” word in these BSG discussion threads? how would Talkie Toaster (Patent applied for) feel about this?
speaking of Chief Tyrol…
Tigh, you frakkin’ idiot, you DO NOT treat the Chief like that, just because he was frakking a <T-word> does not make him one, he’s a dedicated Galactica crewmember, and he saved the Kobol Krew from ending up as <T-word>-chow, so cu t him a frakkin’ break already, he just discovered that the love of his life tends to be obsessed with grilled bread products, and it’s hit him hard…
when push comes to shove, looks like Tigh’s standard response is to close down communication channels and start yelling, not a good way to preserve fleet unity or morale, he’s way out of his depth…
apeaking of mivonks, looks like Billy’s have finally dropped, never expected Toadie-Boy to ever get his nose out of the President’s eema…
Dee seems rather …robotically…obsessed with her job duties thia week, dontcha think?, Tigh’s Tantrum Of Doom didn’t even seem to register with her
oh and while we’re at it, can we shove Ellen Tigh out the nearest airlock, she’ll just frak things up, seems to be a sport with her…“Tigh-baiting”, i wouldn’t be surprised if she was obsessed with grilled bread products either…
Next Week…
Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, and Princess Bunhead, err, Leia take on the Evil Colonial Empir…oops, sorry, make that Apollo, Zarek and Rosalin take on the evil Colonial Empire…
Well I think Boomer was saying there are eight remaining models that are not known to the Galactica. If the same model that was on the Olympic Carrier showed up no one would be the wiser.
Has it ever been mentioned on the show or by TPTB whether the Cylons were copied from and replaced real people that existed? Or were they simply dropped into society with the right ID cards and enough backstory to blend in.
well, he could simply put her in the Aurora Chair and set it to “Frappe”…
I don’t think the question was about model types or the number of Sharon copies or whatever. Baltar said “Tell me how many Cylons there are left in the fleet.” To me that means he wants to know how many individual Cylons are present within the colonial fleet.
Of course, who knows if she’s accurate, they could write it either way.
It’s never been stated. I believe they can’t copy an existing human, but rather create a model, fake the ID’s & drop them into society with a background story that no one would bother to check closely. Six only had low-level access to the military defense system, and had to sleep with Baltar to get access to the top-secret stuff. Sharon Valerii was an orphan of some sort of tragedy at her colony that would have destroyed records of her childhood. Leoben & Doral weren’t doing anything that would require much more than a cursory background check.
I loved Baltar’s delivery of the line “the detector works” to Boomer. I couldn’t believe he’d let her know he intentionally fudged her results (even though no one was in the room but the three of them). However, the way he said it conveyed all of “I’m one sneaky mother fracker whose totally on my own agenda but I’m one step ahead of you so deal with it” in three words.
I’m dying to find out who the other cylons are. Gaeta seems too obvious. Dualla is a good suspect. Never thought of Billy before last night. Even Cally is suspect at this point…
Tigh cannot command, cannot lead, and blundered about every move. So why, oh why, do I feel sorry for him? I guess it’s that he has a few good instincts but fraks them up at every turn. He’s not power hungry (quite the opposite), and he’s trying his best. But he’s a guy with serious flaws who’s way out of his depth and sinking fast. Ellen needs to go. Now. There are no redeeming qualities to that horrible woman.
Well, for a while, it looked like Tigh wanted to patch things up between Galatica and the rest of the fleet… and then his wife went to work on him and he folded faster then superman on laundry day.
In battle, he’s outstanding.
At politics, he sucks.
I concur that Boomer meant “there are eight Cylons beings in the fleet”
I didn’t think this was their best episode, mostly because of the script. (Some of the dialogue was a little clunky, e.g. Baltar’s cliched “everything; nothing,” and the Pyramid game with the rebel was sort of clumsy, though I understand this is going to take an interesting turn next week.) Still, the plot’s just as wildly compelling as ever. Even after so many hours, they’re still capable of shocking us with stuff that afterward makes sense rather than being out-of-the-blue gratuitous reversals. In this ep we have Cally going all Jack Ruby, and the unexpected reappearance of Adama (“what’s happening on my ship? where is my son?”). Not to mention Gaeta’s rather surprising decision not to reveal Dualla’s unlogged transmissions. Hmmmmm.
Plus Apollo finally not only makes an unambiguous choice but follows through on it. There have been some complaints about inconsistency with his character, going back and forth between standing against his father and being a good military man. From what I’ve seen, this isn’t inconsistency with the writing so much as indecision on the part of the character. All the way back to the miniseries, he’s been unsure about his role; he’s following in his father’s footsteps, but he doesn’t like the man much, and he’s not entirely comfortable with the way people just assume he’s the same type of leader. He’s gone back and forth, because he himself isn’t uncertain about who he is. Then he found himself pushed too far, and put a gun to Tigh’s head rather than participate in a coup; but afterward he went back to being an obedient prisoner, serving the fleet’s needs in uniform and walking quietly back to his cell. It’s as if he keeps going out on a limb a ways, then pulling back a bit and sitting to see if he finds it comfortable; then going out a little ways further, and stopping; like it’s taken this horrible crisis to push him into really discovering who he is. And by helping coordinate the rescue of the President, he has finally, I think, taken the big dive into a new role for himself.
Oh, and yeah, I also think Billy’s a Cylon. If he turns out to be one, I’ll have to go back and look to see whether they’ve been setting it up in any subtle manner. (In the miniseries, the Doral character was sprinkled throughout the storyline, including subtly attempting to foment division on Colonial One. Remember him telling Apollo that he didn’t think Roslin should be in charge? Clearly, in retrospect, pursuing a Cylon agenda.) I’ll be disappointed if this is pulled out of their ass. We’ll see how it’s handled.
I just listened to Moore’s Ipod commentary.
Billy didn’t go with the President because the character had a tryout for a WB part and might have to be written out, so that’s not an indication that he is a Cylon
I hope it doesn’t turn into Survivor: Cylon. We have enough of them. It just becomes stupid writing and a plot device.
Now that I think of it, that reminded me a lot of the scene in “The Godfather” where Sonny has just been killed and Vito(in a robe) shows up when Tom is having a drink.
Yes, Ron Moore mentions that in his commentary.
Poor Boomer! A major character that we grew fond of (even though we KNEW she was a Cylon), and she dies like a dog, rejected, beaten and killed by those she called her friends. I hope she goes to Cylon Heaven.
The toaster section at Sears?
Yeah well, there are plenty more where she came from, and theoretically, they’ll all have her memories.
That is completely whacko, Jacko. I mean, I’m a pantheist, but I’m not a *frying * pan-theist!