Say what?
The part during the beginning credits where they show snippets of what’s going to happen during the episode. It’s an homage to Space, 1999. They did it during the first season, then it seemed they’d abandoned it for the second season, but now it’s back.
See I would think that the obvious problem with Boomer is that no matter how nice and pro-human she is, she can still have Cylon induced blackouts where she wakes up covered with blood and unexploded ordinance.
Hey, sounds like the last few people I’ve dated.
Yea, but they won’t take orders worth a damn.
My thought exactly. You and I, we seem to have similars views on this show from week to week.
As for whatever Tyrol is going to think/do when Boomer shows up, it’ll be a lot more subdued now that Adama has asked him that question. It looked like The Chief didn’t even consider that possibility until Adama asked him. But this won’t be his Sharon, so maybe he’ll be able to differentiate between them.
Are we sure that Caprica-Boomer is pregnant? It seemed to me in that conversation after Starbuck’s rescue that she wasn’t so sure anymore, or that’s she sure she isn’t. She seemed to place a lot of emphasis on Starbuck being the most special breeder in the galaxy as the answer to the Cylon-Human hybrid problem.
And I think that the toasters need people to breed with because, yes, they believe in God (or a God of some type, not necessarily one any humans have prayed to) but they don’t have souls. At least, that’s what I think they think.
I am someone who just started watching this show, and, of course, was and am totally confused. I just read the recaps of the miniseries at TWoP, so I finally have an idea of what is going on. If anyone is in the same boat, I heartily recommend renting/buying the miniseries and season one.
C-B (soon to be G-B Version 2.0) had morning sickness and told Helo she was pregnant, so count on it. Maybe the Cylons know how to make an ovum but not a sperm cell? Or have they been experimenting for years with ovaries from captured human women but haven’t been able to harvest their semen, or maybe they only have enough different DNA patterns synthesized to produce the 12 humanoid models. Or maybe they or maybe they’ve been reenacting “The Demon Seed” with Julie Christie - that’s what the hospital scene reminded me of, not “Coma”.
From their fight in the museum.
I thought they copied that from Star Trek: TNG. In Starfleet, the word was degenderized and almost demeaningized, used only to address a superior officer of either sex. I kind of like the idea, anyway.
Not here. Roslin is conflicted, too, between the Prophetess role she’s embracing (whether or not it’s a side effect of her meds), but she’s also a veteran pol. Knowing she’s “playing the religion card” while actually believing her role is not inconsistent, nor is being mechanically clined inconsistent with being either a religious figure or a Secretary of Education.
*Nobody * expects the Caprican Inquisition! Our principal weapons are fear, terror, and a fanatical devotion to Laura Roslin!
It seemed very deliberate to me. She was frustrated with her situation. She doesn’t want to be a religious icon. She just realized that she needs to “play the religion card” in order to get the fleet to follow her. She doesn’t seem to actually believe this hocus pocus stuff that she’s selling, but she knows it’s the only card she has. This frustration was evident several times in the episode, including when she got angry with the recorder.
I just watched the last two episodes at once, thanks to my Tivo. Maybe this was covered in last week’s discussion, but I found it outright hillarious that Starbuck just happens to be an almost pro pyramid player. Un-fucking-believable. There really are only two possibilities for this character:
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Starbuck is one of the most one dimensional, poorly written stock characters to ever appear on television.
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The writers are just having fun with this and fucking with the audience on purpose, since they must know after reading any input from fans last season about “Super Starbuck who does everything well”.
Putting the pyramid scene into the show was either stupid or brilliant and I’m leaning towards stupid.
Plus when Helo shot her, he made sure it was above the sternum.
Our FOUR weapons are fear, terror, a fanatical devotion to Laura Roslin, and a nice red glowing spine…
Whoa! Now there’s an interesting thought! I’m going to have to mull over the implications …
Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!
Lords of Kobol help us if anyone on that show ever utters the phrase “comfy chair” …
Yes, but:
Make another Boomer Cylon, add human sperm, make crossbreed baby – EASY.
Capture human female, strap her up to The Matrix, add Cylon sperm, make crossbreed baby – DIFFICULT.
Why do they need the human female farms at all?
…Or you could just read Ron Moore’s blog and find out.
Scroll down to the paragraph that says “Just how did Starbuck become so fracking awesome? I mean, she’s the best pilot, the best shot, potential pro athlete…”
The bit where he says, If Starbuck were a guy we wouldn’t be having this conversation? True dat.
I understand RM’s point about having to keep the central characters involved in the story. I also buy the bit about them being short handed and she’s one of the few available for most tasks. I’m not sure I buy the bit about we only object to Starbuck being the best at everything because she’s a she.
Maybe that’s true for some, but that isn’t true for me personally. I didn’t like Riker on TNG, and I’ve always hated the “best of the best at damned well every fraking thing” character–and I expect a lot more from this show than from many others.
Of course, I’ve always disliked the “really good at what they do but damned insubordinate, cocky, and full of attitude” characters. That’s just a pet peeve of mine. I’ve worked with excellent copywriters, designers, etc. who produce great work but have attitudes that make them not worth the trouble. Many of them end up going no where but blame company politics rather than the fact that no one wants to work with them. I admit, it’s just something that hits a raw nerve with me.
Quite possibly.
I have often been beaten senseless for implying that Captain Janeway’s detractors have issues with their Mother.
Obviously, any TV show is limited by it’s budget, which means they can’t hire as many actors as they’d want for the story lines, which means that in Starbuck’s case she has to do a lot more than a person normally would. Just another example of real life limitations colliding with creativity. But that doesn’t mean I’m going to stop making jokes about it.
And yet you once again make that assertion…
- Sean
: leaves thread to find a 2X4 :
;leaves thread to find compression phaser rifle.
Yes…that’s where the word “duh” came in.
A lot of people are looking for big problems in the show. It’s understandable. After geek disappointments such as the X-Files everyone has seen something worthwhile milked until it bled radioactive blood.
Still…let’s give them a big chance to fuck it up before condeming them.
-Joe