In fairness, you rarely see it done well. Jonathan Frakes’ acting ability is about as good as the toaster infantry’s marksmanship, and he made what could have been an interesting character into a comic book hero. Katie Sackhoff has done quite a bit more with her character and made Starbuck about as believable as an action character can be.
Agreed.
I was always amazed at how they spent 7 years trying to give Riker a personality (ANYTHING!) and failed utterly.
I think the writing is almost as much to blame as Frakes, though.
-Joe
I would assume since the Toasters were harvesting Starbucks eggs for Cylon Pop-Tarts (Best damn Toaster-pastries in the fleet), it’s a reasonable indicator that Kara’s not obsessed with grilled bread products, unless of course her “Meatbag” programming is the best damn Meatbag programming in the fleet…
Yes…I thought I might be able to cross Starbuck off my list of potential toasters. However, consider this.
What, exactly, did we hear Black Doctor Cylon say to Blonde FireExtinguisher Head Cylon? I don’t think it was conclusive enough to say that they definitely wanted to hook Starbuck up to the Best Damn Milking Machine On The Farm.
Plus, wasn’t the woman already attached to the Milking Machine part of Starbuck’s unit that got ambushed? If so, why was she already hooked up while Starbuck hadn’t been? Maybe they were doing something more involved like…implanting something?
-Joe
Mumblemumble… this subject … mumblemumble. Not “this patient”. And Starbuck could see the Six well enough to recognize it.
She might have been captured intact. Starbuck had to recuperate from her bullet wound in the gut first.
If you buy season one set then you don’t need to also buy the miniseries
That season one season set includes the miniseries
This one does not include the miniseries
Also, they were apparently doing some sort of preliminary testing before hooking her up - that’s what caused the second scar.
Anyone else ponder the significance of a Cylon lecturing a human about the effects of growing up under abusive parents?
[Harvey/Scorpius] …Hello, John…[/H/S]
Oh, God! That would be too funny. I’m certain they wouldn’t do it, but it would be cool if Starbuck ended up with a Dr. Simon chip in her head. He could pester her about all those anger management issues, etc.
According to the BSG wiki ,
Simon:…pending lab test results on [sample for] ovaries, complete removal will proceed tomorrow. They’ve lab tested positive and subject will be removed to processing facility for final disposition.
Number Six: Is that regret I hear in your voice, Simon?
Simon: If it is, it certainly is none of your concern.
Ah, she still has 'em then. Thanks.
Okay, everyone follow my logic here and tell me where I’m getting it wrong.
- Remove Starbuck’s ovaries
- ?
- Best Profit In The Fleet
Okay, no, that’s not it. Just joking.
Seriously, though, if they were going to put Starbuck in a Farm Implement why remove her ovaries? In a case like that are we to assume the Cylons removed the ovaries of all the other Farm Women?
If so…I think I can see the flaw in their artificial impregnation plan.
-Joe
And she wasn’t going to be used as a live incubator. Interesting.
Think we’ll ever see Caprica’s Pyramid Insurgant Squad again, or hear about their (assumed) campaign against the hybrid farms?
Good question. I’ve gotten used to cutting back to Caprica every so often, and it would be a shame not to check in on them from time to time. Plus, I suspect there’s something up with Sam. Not sure what yet, but the Cylons think Starbuck is “special” and they’re trying out this “conceive a child from love” thing, and Starbuck seemed kinda in love with Sam, and… well that’s all I’m sayin’.
During the ambush, when the toasters were closing and the rebels were retreating, I figured the producers were deliberately messing with us by showing Starbuck standing by the jeep getting all spacy and woozy — “Waitaminnit! Is her Cylon programming taking over? Is that why she isn’t running away? They’re overriding her brain so they can take her back to base?” — until they panned down and showed she’d been shot.
That’s a very good point. I have to credit either Katie Sackhoff’s acting or Ron Moore’s writing because–even though I normally hate characters like hers–I don’t dislike Starbuck. In fact, I actually like her a bit (though I also reserve the right to make fun of her)!
I refuse to even speculate about Starbuck being a cylon! I’ve said before that I kind of like the “who’s a cylon” guessing game–but that’s only when it’s confined to secondary characters. Dualla, Billy, Gaeta, Helo, pyramid guy, the priestess lady: fine. Adama, Apollo, Starbuck, Tigh, Laura Roselyn, Baltar: off limits!
Ah, the steel toed shoe is on the other foot, eh?
If she had woken up in bathtub full of ice, we wouldn’t be discussing this.
But I can’t see starbuck carrying around a dialysis machine for the rest of the series.
This sounds, to me, more like a bad thing. Her ovaries tested positive, but what for? Ovarian cancer? That would make the spectre of “final disposition” and the regret in the doctors voice a bit more interesting.
Disposition = disposal/incineration.
Regret = the doctor doesn’t get to knock up another subject in the effort to carry on his work.
Just a thought.
When Mr. Pyramid guy gave Starbuck his goodbye speech, it seemed to me that after Starbuck left he started walking in a direction away from the secret rebel base. Is it possible that his superior physical abilities are no accident? Has the second Cylon love child already been sired, with a quick prenatal check following to make sure everything’s okay?