Oh, and yeah, my point to this: if Starbuck his cancer, couldn’t she be in line for the “dying leader” bit? Adama already is, but Kara would make a fine military/conflicted-rebel character to put in the mix. 
Depends. Is this 'religious card" Rosalyn is playing a real force, or is it just one of many old myths that’s been resurrected so she can reach her political goals/ It seems that only one planet of the twelve (Gemini, or whatever they called it) believe that this is a literal truth, and not just a religious story.
I think this is just a method for Rosalyn to reach her goal of getting the Fleet to Earth. In the miniseries, everyone seemed surprised that Adama was taking the survivors to this legendary planet, because (it seemed to me) that no one believed it to be a real place. When he confessed to the then-President this was just a ruse to keep everyone working together and hopeful, she didn’t seem to have an epiphany about her future role. Her reaction, I thought, showed she was against Adama telling a lie that wouold eventually trip him up when it’s discovered that there is no Earth.
So, I don’t think Starbuck would fit this role, because I don’t think it will amount to anything more than a distracting force to Adama’s goal of keeping the fleet together.
Is someone going to get the episode number right for this week’s show? Or was the op started by a member of the toaster infantry who can neither shoot, nor count?
The black-doctor Cylon (the 5th humanoid version we’ve seen of the 12) told Starbuck she had a cyst on one ovary (not cancer), but that it should still work. “Tested positive” I thought meant “still viable, not radiation-poisoned”.
Anyway, it seems pretty clear that the humanoid Cylons are so perfect biologically because they’re made from human, er, raw material. There are so few models perhaps because they have so few functioning ovaries available, but there are so many eggs in each that they can make a helluva lot of copies.
D’ohh! I did the same thing last season. Grumble grumble.
Regarding the possibility of Starbuck being forced somehow to reproduce: In the second episode of this season, after she broke into her old apartment, she got poked in the butt with the Arrow when she sat on it. Overly cute bit of obscure foreshadowing, or am I reading too much into a dumb piece of slapstick? 
Cervaise is a Cylon!! :eek:
I don’t want to look for his glowing spine of passion, either…
One can’t help but wonder…
Do adolescent Cylon boys set the furniture on fire reading Playbot?
Or is it boring?
“Hey Tommy, check this out!”
“You’ve seen one model 6, you’ve seen 'em all.”
That struck me as well, I finally concluded he had a lot less gray in his hair (but I could be wrong).
Also, has Adama ever worn a wedding ring? He’s divorced from Lee’s mother, right? - was it mentioned that he remarried? Or did EJO slip up and forget to remove his? (it’s very obvious during the scene with corpse-Boomer)
I say we send in Starbuck …
What is the fate of Starbuck in the Melville novel?
Ehhh…
The thing I liked about the first season was grit and a refreshing lack of soggy melodrama. This ep. reveals the incipient bathos threateningly lurking just beneath the surface has finally become a fulminating sob-fest, and I don’t like it. I don’t like it one bit. Starbuck blubbers in every other scene. Hell, there’s Starbuck and Sporty blubbering together. “I’ll come back for you…<sniff>!” Bleagh. The show lost its balls somewhere and needs to get them back.
And the whole farm thing? Ummm, can we say stock sci-fi retread? Have we not done the “humans as gestational pods” thing quite enough for one or two centuries? “Kill me”. Right the fuck out of Alien IV, the worst of the series. Very unoriginal turn of events, and very disappointing. I’ll watch next week, but if this degrades into more hackneyed sci-fi bullshit, I’m tuning out.
Okay, so maybe you’re right about that, but you’re annoyed because Starbuck has no balls?
Yeah, yeah, you got me there! But Starbuck cannot be a cylon. Regardless of how many ovaries or balls she has at this point, she’s not a cylon. If she is, I’ll eat a bug. I’m that confident!
Now Cervaise, on the other hand…
Well, metaphorically speaking, yes.
Look: The Starbuck I thought I was getting into and getting to know was a cocky, smart-ass fighter jock who liked the sex with no apologies, and looked damn good in leather.
Well, she still looks good, but now, instead of just being a fine, predatory, kick-ass vixen with mad flying skillz, she’s got this history, see, to explain why she’s so hard. No, Kyra’s really just a lost little girl, abused as a child, hiding behind a tough facade, seeking relief in meaningless sex, looking for twoo wuuuv.
Fuck that shit. Where’s the fucking fun in that? I didn’t mind that they slapped some tits on the Starbuck character (far from it!), but if they cut her balls off too, what’s the goddamn point of the character? We loved Starbuck because he/she was sincerely baaaad, and cocky, and defiant, reckless, and oversexed, and didn’t give a shit what you thought about him/her. But now we’ve gotta psychoanalyze this to death. I can see it coming. She can’t just be lady Starbuck. No, she’s gotta have some complex psychodynamics beneath her brash exterior to explain why she’s not all sugar, spice, and everything nice. Bullshit, I say. Drop that arc like rock, BG writers, or I lose interest.
It does seem weird that she cuts a Clylon throat with a mirror, crushes another’s skull and when confronted by the third puts her face in her hands and cries.
Perhaps they are playing down her being the best of the best to some extent. I didn’t listen to all of the blog on this episode, but Moore mentioned something about her taking all she sould take or something like that.
“Kill me” was also in Aliens, the best of the series.
Imagine that, characters showing emotion. Maybe it could be like Star Trek?
Picard: [Shakespeare Quote]
Riker: [Different Shakespeare Quote]
One nods. The other tugs on his PJs. Then one leaves.
Ooohhh…no thanks.
-Joe
Actually, didn’t she show some emotional issues during the Interrogation of that Cylon?
I have no problem with Starbuck having an abused past, but it should be something they only hint at, so it doesn’t overpower the show with its pathos, as Loopydude was complaining about. Hopefully this is the last we see of this issue, aside from a few offhand remarks for continuity sake. Lord of Kobol help us if this becomes a major part of the arc. Yech.
And the “stock sci-fi retread” thing? Meh. It’s bound to happen from time to time, and they didn’t play it up too much, so it didn’t bother me. Still … I would’ve rather Starbuck had at least tried to free the women rather than killing them outright, though. That would’ve been a lot more in her character than pulling the fuse and running, but at least we have the excuse that she was still semi-drugged and recovering from surgery.
Yeah, and allso moaning “Leeee” while shagging Balthar.
Like I said, danger was lurking beneath the surface. Now it’s reared its ugly head. Dive, dive. Run silent, run deep, oh hideous sentimentality.