Adama didn’t swipe her kid. Roslin did. The only people who know Hera is still alive are Roslin, her assistant, and Cottle.
In reference to the gun fire we hear that seems to be coming from the area of the trucks and the 200 folks that are to be executed. I think/hope that it was not gunfire from the toasters, but the New Caprica Police firing at the toasters once they realize and/or come to terms on what is actually going on.
Huh. I need to go back and re-watch that episode. I tried looking up the details on battlestarwiki.org, but haven’t turned up anything conclusive. I did, however, see that there’s a new line of BSG die-cast models/toys to be distributed by Hasbro. Mmmmmmmm, tasty.
I’ve little to add to the thread, but all I can say is that any worries I had about the re-boot last season have been well and truly laid to rest. One of the greatest TV programs ever made.
Another angle I haven’t seen brought up yet:
My wife reminds me of what D’s conversation with Lee. Essentially, she married Adama jr. because he shares some traits with Adama sr. They’ve hinted before at a higher-than-normal level of familiarity between Dualla and the Old Man, but this one really sounded… I’m not sure “stalkish” is a word, but I think it fits well.
I really like Dualla. I hope she’s not a Cylon. 
I’m not getting the horror/disgust towards suicide bombers as an evil unto themselves. To me, the horror is in targetting non-combatants & civilians, which RL suicide bombers do. What’s the difference to the target between planting a bomb to blow up a lot of cylons like Tyrol and Anders did at the beginning, and strapping the explosives to yourself like Duck and the unnamed woman did later? Both of them hit legitimate military targets - Cylons and collaborators. What’s the big difference between wearing the explosives and tossing in a satchel charge and hoping you can escape? When Tigh expressed his disappointment that the marketplace was being closed, since he planned to bomb that, then I felt total disgust for him - he’d be blowing up innocent civilians instead of legitimate military targets.
To make my point clearer - if Duck had brought in a satchel charge to the NCP ceremony, thrown it and run like hell, do you think the Cylons would be saying “Oh, that’s OK then.”
Did anyone else think that Ron Moore missed an excellent chance to have Doral tell Baltar “Either your signature or your brains will be on that execution order.” ?
He has none. 
I don’t think the Cylons are disgusted by suicide bombers, I think they are using human concepts of good and evil against the colonials. If they trully hold some religious belief about it, they may be disgusted with suicide, since as has alredy been mentioned, they just awaken in a hot tub full of goo.
I don’t think for example that the Dean Stockwell Cylon really believes, “Soon you won’t have to wear these (ski masks) you people will regard you as heroes.”
Cavil is interesting. Among the Cylons, his model seems to be the religion expert. Yet he continually mocks his fellow Cylons and their silly little ethical and moral wafflings. Kill 'em all. Or don’t. Whatever. It doesn’t seem he loses any sleep at night wondering what some theoretical God might think. “You gotta instill fear! Let’s kill Baltar!”
He’s certainly the most fun. You have to wonder why he acts the way he does. Does he just not give a shit? Does he represent Chaos or something?
Is he just the Crotchety Old Cylon that likes to bitch about the old days when Toasters were Real Toasters?
-Joe
I get a strong feeling of parallel the existential angst Rutger Hauer displayed in Blade Runner. We (humans) argue about the nature of god (or God, or gods) our maker, to this day. What’s the nature of the deity, does it exist, are we images of the deity, does it care? A lot of the mythology on deities have them appear as human, only more so. Larger than life with our virtues and faults enhanced.
But the Cylons and Batty have met their makers and found them… lacking. This leads to deicide, frustration and anxiety. Which I think is the key to understanding the actions of the Meatbags.
Actually, I thought she was famous for seducing Baltar and compromising the defense network, thereby single-handedly facilitating the overwhelming success of the attack. The Doral model said hello in the street and called her a Hero of the Cylon long before she squashed Deanna’s noggin with a rock.
You have to feel sorry for him. All the other models we’ve seen are continually reincarnated into young, fit bodies. He keeps coming back as a middle aged man. And his best chance for sex is with Ellen Tigh!
Good point. Somebody doesn’t like him.
I may not have it exact, but I’m betting that Cavil, unknown to the rest of the toasters, is THE CYLON, and he is testing his children. Giving them tough situations and generally messing with them and seeing what they’ll do.
Or not. But his attitude seems like it would fit. Like with Ellen - sure, he might be humping her for fun and (Cylon) profit - but I’ll bet it’s more just plain fun as far as screwing with Ma and Pa Tigh.
-Joe
If that was the case, why does whassisface tell Cally to run? He is the leader of the police, and he obviously knows what is going to happen. I would imagine that many of the other police do as well. Their conscience would have to do an about face pretty darn fast…
As I said, the OTHER possibility for that scene (apart from a Boomer-led-Centurion rescue) is that the BlackHoods were going to take out the Centurions and Jammer didn’t want Cally to get gunned down in the crossfire.
-Joe
Actually, has he ever been killed? Sure, he might have to come back as a middle aged man, but then all of his copies might actually be middle-aged men.
How’s it work? If this show goes on ten years then every reincarnated Six is going to have to be a 10-year-older Six.
Maybe Cavil is the first humanoid Cylon. At first he was younger, but all his xeroxes have to be continually updated to match his current chronological age.
That’s freaky though. He can’t be as old as he is. The old Cylon war was 40 years ago. He looks older than 40.
There were two of him on Galactica at one point. I don’t remember what happened to them.
Another reason I think that StarBratt is a Six that hasn’t had all her firmware* upgrades loaded, if you know what I mean.
-Joe
*Damn, I felt dirty typing that
I feel compelled to observe that this Galactica thread is, as I write this, 218 posts long, whereas the Lost thread, with two additional days since its premiere aired, is just 214 posts long. Yay! We’re winning! 