Not in the Battlestar universe it seems.
If you remember from the first season, when Tigh first took command, he specifically delineated between marines and pilots when he was ordering that boarding parties be sent to the rebellious ships. That seems a bit pointless if some of the pilots were marines themselves.
Well, when they introduced Zarek and his prison ship they sent in Starbuck with some Marines, but Adama didn’t say “send in the pilots.”
Later in the series, you may have noticed Apollo wearing more Marine-style clothes for awhile. I remember reading or maybe hearing in one of Moore’s podcasts that he was planning on transitioning Apollo into more of a Marine role. That’s not really a spoiler, since obviously Moore changed his mind about where to go with Apollo.
I loaned out my DVD’s to my brother recently, but I was sure that the episode had him telling her to assemble a strike team, or something.
TBH, I don’t have a clue what that’s about. Are you certain?
Yeah, I’m pretty sure. Pilots and I guess whatever the regular Colonial military are generally hang out in those brown tank-tops over a regular t-shirt, right? But for a couple eps Moore had Apollo hanging out in (I think) a black t-shirt, with the intention of Apollo taking on more of a Marine role. He wanted him to look more Marine than pilot. His rank wouldn’t have changed, but his military duties & role would have.
I’m not sure Moore has ever spelled out exactly what it means to be a Marine. On Galactica it basically means combat/SWAT/military police. One time we saw a Gunnery Sergeant. That’s very Marine.
But didn’t Adama call Tyrol “Specialist” recently? Who knows where that came from.
Having just finished watching this episode I’d like to say: what the fuck?
I got to the last 15 minutes of the episode where mock-Irish tortured lawyer man is waving his gun around and I felt like crying, thinking “I just DON’T care about this, I wanna see the base star and find out what happened - waaaaaaaaaah!”. How could they give us such a fantastic episode last week and then serve up this? It’s like giving someone a spoonful of chocolate fudge ice cream followed by a spoonful of lukewarm cow turd.
A little over the top, but I agree. After the last episode I was thinking “next week is going to be the most kickass episode ever!”. After this weeks ‘last week on Battlestar Galactica’ was think “Oh yeah, I just got reminded of all the little things that made me think this was going to be the most kickass episode ever!”
Then all the crap with Badger and I was like, “Huh? What happened with all the cool stuff?”
So, two questions.
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Did the “next week” previews tell us that we’re going to see the other half of the story next week?
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Was Badger’s cat dead the whole time? Was he a HeadCat? I’m trying to remember if Lee ever interacted with it, or if he just tripped over its food disk.
-Joe
That was the trippiest part of the episode. I’ll have to re-watch to get the exact dialogue, but I’m pretty sure the cat was dead for weeks and was yet another vision. More proof that visions are pretty normal in the BSG universe, and you can’t rely on what they may mean.
No wait! The cat is the final fifth! I knew it!
At this point, I’m bouncing between Cottle and Roslin.
Cottle, because of Six’s death and the aforementioned white aura. Roslin because I like the symmetry of going from a human/cylon pair heading the government to a cylon/human pair running the government.
So…I can get lost some times. The Six that got shot by Athena - that wasn’t Caprica, who is in the brig, that was the Six that…Gina?
-Joe
Cottle would make a great fifth, but I’m not reading anything into the death scene. Cottle had a surgery lamp behind him which is perfectly normal. The Six seemed to be doing that Cylon thing where they can imagine they’re somewhere else. She was having brief glimpses of sunshine and trees.
Which Six is which? Beats me. I’ve lost track.
Sure, but having her last act being her coming back from Imaginary Cylon Land and instead see Cottle with a bright, glowing halo, and then reaching out for him…well, that makes him a strong candidate for me.
-Joe
No - Gina died a while ago.
The Six that Athena shot was Natalie, the leader of the Cylon rebels. Who will they be led by now? That’s an interesting question.
I have to wonder what the reaction of the Eights will be to Natalie’s death. They asked Athena to lead a rebellion against her, and she reamed them out for it. Then, in the next episode, she kills her…
According to the blurb for the next episode on the Sky EPG,
it’s about the Cylon rebels and colonials joining up on an attack on the Resurrection Hub. So, I guess we’ll see what happens on the Base Ship after the jump.
However, the EPG seems to have changed now, and it looks like we’ll be seeing a repeat of the Lost finale on Sky rather than a sneak preview of new BSG next Tuesday.
Oh well, it was nice while it lasted.
I don’t think it matters, they are all Kosh, so to speak.
Hah! That part never occurred to me.
Anyways, what was Natalie’s first appearance, then? Usually we give our Cylons names based on the first time we meet them undercover. Where’d Natalie come from?
But they’re NOT anymore. Kind of the point…
-Joe
I really liked this episode, actually - but then, I like all the Fleet Politics episodes. To me, that’s actually one of the more interesting parts of the BSG story - not just, “things go boom!” but “how do we govern ourselves after things go boom?”
The cat was dead for “weeks” - we saw Lee interact with the cat during Baltar’s trial, but not in this ep.
Huh. How 'bout that. And that’s how it went when Boomer shot Adama, wasn’t it? Boomer meets the boobie-bouncing boomerbot brigade, freaks out, and then shoots Adama back on Galactica.
Some people never learned to “just say no” to peer pressure.
Does this mean Mira Furlan is the Final Fifth? Sweet!
The sickness from the radiation took quite a long time to set in. Leoben, IIRC, said he was in the nebula for 22 hours or so. The crew was in the nebula nearly as long.
Ditto here. I liked it just fine. I don’t mind a lack of fireworks if the character work is solid, and this was jam packed with character stuff. (Highlight: Adama confronting Athena. Great scene.)
I will say, though, that the reappearance of Romo felt more than a little bit like fanservice to me. He was a volcano in the season three wrapup, and the audience was begging for a return visit, so the writers started looking for an opportunity to shoehorn him back in. This was, I guess, as good as it was going to be, but the rationale for the character’s reappearance still didn’t feel entirely organic. I started to buy into it by maybe the midway point, as Romo’s snark was fairly well written (by, IIRC, the same staffer who wrote Romo’s introductory episode), but it took a while to get there for me.
My WAG is that it is Roslin. The dying leader leading them to Earth, the 5th Cylon can lead them to earth. It explains how she can share Visions with the Cylons (or any Visions for that matter) without having to bring God/gods into it.
How did I miss that Tighe and 6 had sex? Was that implied on camera? I always saw 6 turn into his wife and he seem tempted then pull back in horror - I would too - that was creepy and well done 2-3 times. Tighe didn’t deny that they had sex but I was as shocked as Adama.
I think the 5 must be different right? Because Tighe must have aged if he has known Adama since back in the day, and it seems likely that the others have too (but I guess it doesn’t necessarily have to be so for them)