Battlestar Galactica Finale Thread

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I’m wondering a couple of things here:

For the folks who hate it, how much of that is transference of your own religious views on the show? I don’t say this as a bible thumping preacherboy, I say this as “Here is a show that establishes lazer guns, glowy spine sex, and the good guys assault the cylon base without helmets so you can see Apollo’s flowing locks” and you choose ‘I don’t like that a higher deity exists to the story’? It’s part and parcel to the parameters of the story they’re telling. Just like, you know, vampires and blood.

I thought that this was, perhaps, the strongest ending to a Sci-Fi series I’ve ever seen. The only (minor) quibble I has was how the evil, psychopathic, badguy Cavil exits via self induced lead poisoning. (and just possibly the 'oh yeah, and we’ve got a whole bunch of Raptors over there in the science wing. We don’t scavenge their parts or weapons because the exhibit looks just so purty.)

What got me was how all the big boomy stuff seemed resolved and there was still a ton of airplay left. I think they did a GREAT job of carrying the story along.

To the folks that wish to gouge out their eyes because it was the most hackneyed trite pablum they’ve ever seen…uh, it’s just a TV show?

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It was brilliant and really goes up there with Babylon 5 in terms of great finales.

I still tear up thinking about Bill realizing Laura has died.

I still tear up thinking about Gaius saying, “I know something about farming.”

I think just about everything worked in this episode. The ending is a bit over the top, but everything up the final shot of Bill Adama on the mountain side was perfect.

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I was wondering the same thing about folks who liked this episode. :slight_smile:

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I guess the landing site on nuked-out Earth wasn’t Brooklyn after all. Another fanwank undone!

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I really liked the finale. I think it was very well done. Loved the camera panning past the original BSG centurion in the display case.

But someone, please, refresh my memory on the following:

[ul]
[li]What was Baltar’s link to farming?[/li]
[li]What happened to Leoben?[/li]
[li]What happened to Deanna?[/li][/ul]

Sad the series is over. Now I gotta find a new one to love.

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I loved seeing Cavil shoot himself. That is exactly how that character should have gone. It was so predictable yet surprising at the same time.
Series finale was good. Not great but good. I’d give it a solid B. It had some issues but overall, it did the job for me.

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Baltar’s father was a farmer and he was raised in a poor rural community. After his many different careers, in the end he returns to his roots.

Leoben said that the 2s, 6s, and 8s would be joining the humans on New Earth.

Deanna was left to die on the original Earth (her choice).

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Needed more Dirk Benedict.

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I deplore all things religous - I had hoped they would reveal the “third party God” to be something a little less wizardry - but they handled it perfectly for what they had set up all along in the series.

So, while the “God Did It” wasn’t what I wanted them to do (probably due to my personal dislike for religion) - it was exactly what they had set up all along for the story.

I liked the line by Caprica in the final scenes - “run the same test enough times, eventually you get a surprising outcome” - however, the following line “he doesn’t like to be called that” made me think he wants to be called an “Architect”.

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Indeed. I got a text message about 15 seconds after the end of the episode from a friend of mine saying “So what are they- some kind of smokin-hot aziraphale and Baltar-Crowley now?”

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Question about the Cylons on Earth: now that they are away from the Basestar and all Cylon technology, will they age? Or could they conceivably live forever, if they don’t have an accident, like Middle Earth elves?

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Yes to both. My girlfriend and I high-fived over the first.

I see what you did there.

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Thank you! Was Leoben a 2?

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Yup.

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In pt. 1 of the finale, we meet Baltar’s elderly father, a retired farmer. He’s a crude, blunt-spoken working man with thick “Country” English accent (contrasted with Baltar’s deliberately cultivated “Upper-Crust” English accent) that keeps driving his caretaker nurses away through his cantankerous ways.

Caprica Six comes through and finds an elderly care facility where he’s happy. That was one of her “ins” with Baltar that led to her getting access to the Colonial Defense Mainframe.

Earlier in the series (I think during Baltar’s trial) he pretty much came right out and admitted that he’s from dirt-poor country farmer roots, and that he deliberately adopted the trappings of a sophisticated urbanite to deny/conceal his past (mostly from himself).

Don’t know about Leoben.

Didn’t Deanna stay on Nuked Earth to “find her own answers?”

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I’ll have to watch it again, but at the time I thought Baltar’s father sounded Irish.

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I think you folks are discounting just how heavily Moore seems to have relied on biblical mythology. To me, it was pretty plainly evident that Baltar is Lucifer.

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So lessee…

Q:Who/what was Starbuck? A: solidified ghost.

Q: how did her corpse and wrecked Viper get to Earth*? Where did she get a brand new Viper to return in? A: [del]A wizard[/del] God did it.

Q: how could the Colonials be human when we know humanity evolved on Earth? A: by a divine miracle, human life evolved independently on two different worlds.

Q: Where did the Colonials get their para-Greek mythology, or alternately, where did the Greeks get it? A: Either it was a narrative convention for a pagan religion that viewers would identify with, or else the myths survived to classical times.

Q: What was so special about Hera? A: apparently her human/Cylon heritage gave her exactly the right genetic structure to be the “Eve” of modern humans.

One thing I"m still unsure about: I could have sworn that the nuked Earth* was shown with recognizable continents, at least in the Watchtower episode.

How did the Centurions communicate with the skinjobs? We know that the first generation Centurions could speak in an electronic monotone. All through the series the new models were mute; I half-expected them to finally show one talking in a refined Anthony Daniels voice.

Ok, my opinions and comments:

Thank the Gods it wasn’t a time loop. Or that they didn’t populate Earth in total contradiction to evolution.

If Tryol hadn’t decided to become a hermit, they might have had to expel him anyway. The man’s unstable.

So Baltar finally broke down and admitted that he was a yokel; a hayseed; a clodhopper.

It would have been tough for them to even try to continue civilization. Who knows how much equipment was lost at New Caprica, and what was left in the fleet must have been wearing out. Most of their technology they simply wouldn’t have had the economy of scale to reproduce. The last chemist or machine tool engineer would have died long before anything like industry could be reestablished. And even if they had maintained settlements, the living was easy enough to tempt people away into going native. Still, I’m a little surprised they didn’t stay at least at the “farmer and village craftsman” level.

Speculation: I wonder if the RealEarth natives were just at the cusp of sentience, and needed to interbreed with the Colonials/Cylons to transcend being just very smart homonids? To gain “souls”, if you will? Otherwise, why were the Colonials needed?

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I think it may be more accurate to compare Head Baltar and Head Six to re-imaged versions of original BSG Iblis and John, really. It’s just, this time, they’re working for the same guy.

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Is there a BSG in a Nutshell for someone who only watched intermittently? I’m getting the gist from this thread, but I’m still confused.