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Which makes it the perfect place for deep cover cylons to hang out & not get destroyed. The cylons have a plan, after all…they keep telling us in the opening credits. 
As for Anders, he was on Caprica getting chased by toasters. Many of his friends got killed, but not him. Maybe the bullet-heads, on some level, couldn’t kill him. Also, this is a show that uses themes of destiny. The final five were destined to be together in the fleet. Whatever they come up with, I’m sure it’ll be interesting. I just hope it won’t suck.
Today, I look forward to watching. Anyone gonna try to watch it early on Sci-fi’s site? I think it’ll be up streaming in a few hours. I won’t. I like my BSG in HD big screen glory.
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Pity me, it’ll be April 15th (I think) before it hits Sky One.
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As I understand it the survival of Galactica was purely based on their control systems being so antiquated they weren’t affected by the Cylon computer virus.
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Their computers aren’t networked with other systems. The best Trekian excuse I can come up with from the description is that the newer ships used some wi-fi for their systems to communicate and the Cylons took advantage of that to hack into their systems. 
What I want to know is why didn’t the final cylon hear the music and compelled to the old gym like the others that were on board galactica? Either they weren’t on the ship (Roslyn?) or not in the area (Starbuck?).
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But why would they have taken out Starbucks ovary if she was a cylon? Because they don’t know who the final five are, hence Tigh’s eye. Maybe they discovered that she was a cylon, and that’s why they hadn’t hooked her up to a baby machine, unless it was all just preparation to get her hooked up[/thinking out loud]
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant]
Their computers aren’t networked with other systems. The best Trekian excuse I can come up with from the description is that the newer ships used some wi-fi for their systems to communicate and the Cylons took advantage of that to hack into their systems.
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Umm…this is totally obvious. I mean, 100% glaringly obvious on the show.
The newer ships don’t need wi-fi, they can use WIRES. Or maybe they do use wireless. Why does it matter?
-Joe
[QUOTE=One And Only Wanderers]
I think the idea is that a big thing was made of Agathon/Boomer’skid being the very first human cylon cross, so anyone who has a kid older than that baby is off the hook for cylonhood. Chief Tyrol’s kid with Callie is younger so he was OK to be outed as a Cylon from that perspective, Admiral Adama, not so much.
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I wonder when they’ll address this since it seems like Hera and Nick could be Adam & Eve of a new species.
[QUOTE=Zakalwe]
Okey dokey, less than 24 hours to go now…
So, is Kara the 12th Cylon or is it Adama? Discuss.
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I think she’s the 13th Cylon…previously did not exist until they killed her and cloned her using DNA recovered from her vehicle. Her personality and most of her memories will be intact from her captivity on either Caprica or New Caprica where they downloaded them somehow. The Cylons goal is to now fully cross-breed and hybridize with the humans and they now realize they need something (possibly diverse genes) to evolve into them, which seems to be their goal.
Just my speculation. I don’t think Adama is a Cylon. The 12th has to be Baltar or perhaps the President.
[QUOTE=joemama24_98]
Just my speculation. I don’t think Adama is a Cylon. The 12th has to be Baltar or perhaps the President.
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Well, the Final Four seem to have been people working against the other Cylons - so I’m going to guess it’s someone who has been fighting them. Baltar is out, IMO.
I’m going Starbuck or Roslin.
-Joe
Regarding the last Cylon yet to be revealed, Ron Moore is on record in some interview somewhere as saying that it isn’t going to be one of the “major” characters. So it’s not Starbuck, Roslin, Apollo, Baltar, etc.
Now, of course, the fans are arguing about what makes a character “major.”
“Yes, the final Cylon is … Phelan!”
“Wow! … Wait, who?”
“Phelan. You know, that scary criminal guy running the child-prostitution ring.”
“Uh … oh, right. Yeah, I remember him.”
“Good. Anyway, it’s him.”
“Wait, didn’t Apollo shoot him? Isn’t he, y’know, like dead and stuff?”
“Um. Yeah. Shame about that, really.”
“Well, now what are we going to do?”
“Better go see if Admiral Adama has some shoe polish.”
[QUOTE=joemama24_98]
I think she’s the 13th Cylon…
Just my speculation. I don’t think Adama is a Cylon. The 12th has to be Baltar or perhaps the President.
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waitaminnit! Baltar was in prison and wouldn’t have been able to go to the old gym. also: it makes sense in a way to have 13 cylons. There were 13 colonies, one left and was different. Starbuck would be the different one.
[QUOTE=Merijeek]
Well, the Final Four seem to have been people working against the other Cylons - so I’m going to guess it’s someone who has been fighting them. Baltar is out, IMO.
I’m going Starbuck or Roslin.
-Joe
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Actually, the Final Four were the leaders of the anti-Cylon resistance on New Caprica*. That can’t be a coincidence. I’m positive that whoever’s “operating” them, it isn’t the Cylons we know.
*Incidentially,
[QUOTE=Cervaise]
Regarding the last Cylon yet to be revealed, Ron Moore is on record in some interview somewhere as saying that it isn’t going to be one of the “major” characters. So it’s not Starbuck, Roslin, Apollo, Baltar, etc.
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The only only other major Resistance figures were Roslin, who’s too obvious, and Felix Gaeta. How does Gaeta look as the Fifth? He’s not a “major” character, but he’s always been around, and I’ve always suspected there was more to his story than we’ve seen so far.
[QUOTE=Merijeek]
Umm…this is totally obvious. I mean, 100% glaringly obvious on the show.
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But when they do network to calculate a long jump quickly and the Cylons hack in, they are networked with cables. Great big, honking #10 cables. :rolleyes:
And the damn music. The Watchtower.
Why the hell wasn’t it Crossroad Blues “Save old Tighe, If you please.” or better yet, Me and the Devil Blues?
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant]
And the damn music. The Watchtower.
Why the hell wasn’t it Crossroad Blues “Save old Tighe, If you please.” or better yet, Me and the Devil Blues?
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Something by Kylie Minogue would have been funny. Or maybe the Benny Hill theme.
[QUOTE=Alessan]
Actually, the Final Four were the leaders of the anti-Cylon resistance on New Caprica*. That can’t be a coincidence. I’m positive that whoever’s “operating” them, it isn’t the Cylons we know.
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Tori was part of that? I didn’t remember that.
-Joe
[QUOTE=Merijeek]
Tori was part of that? I didn’t remember that.
-Joe
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Remember her barking orders - concerning Hera and her adoptive mother - during the evacuation? She seemed to be the organizational mind behind the Resistance.
I’m still thinking Starbuck is the original hybrid, and daddy is gonna show up, Dirk Benedict or not. Daddy could be the 12th. We don’t know much about him, but he was an artsy type, Starbuck got her artsy side from him, and she was drawing nebulas when she was still a kid.
Tom Zarek is my other pick. He not only resisted the Cylon occupation, but prior to that he was all about destroying the established order and rebuilding things.
[QUOTE=Alessan]
Actually, the Final Four were the leaders of the anti-Cylon resistance on New Caprica*. That can’t be a coincidence. I’m positive that whoever’s “operating” them, it isn’t the Cylons we know.
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That’s a good insight. I like the idea of there being a Cylon split in terms of agenda, or an over-riding party driving the Cylon/human interaction. It would fit well with the experiences of Baltar/Caprica-Six, who somehow are different and “influenced”. And, there’s always been the concept of a pre-conceived fate or destiny “this has happened before, and will happen again”.
I started watching BSG a few weeks ago, and had intended to catch up before tonight, but didn’t make it. I watched the S2 finale (settling on New Crapica) last night. Hopefully I can be all caught up by next weekend and join in the fun with you guys.
The episode is playing live right now on Scifi.com. I’m not gonna watch.
If you want a really fast talking somewhat snarky catch-up on everything that’s happened so far, watch What the Frak is Going On? also on the Scifi site.
Maybe someone posted this (I can’t read the thread yet) but you can watch the premeire RIGHT FRAKING NOW at scifi.com.
Also, I hate you all.
There was some discussion in the past as to whether it was all planned or not. I am on the side of “they made stuff up as they went along.” In the final season, will it all dovetail together in a marvelous climax, or did Moore and his minions require this much time to patchwork everything together and create explanations? 