Liked *Brokeback Mountain *while stroking your poodle, did you?
Seriously man, I don’t know why you go on about it. Gonzomax seems to have some perfectly lucid (and often funny) posts in Game Room, and…well, that’s about the only place I’ve seen that. so I gots nothing…
Great Debate about God, generally not a total trainwreck. About politics, about sexuality, about fine points of jurisprudence, not a guaranteed trainwreck.
But guns, gun control, anything associated with guns, and its a lead pipe cinch, straight off the Bridge on the River Kwai.
Is it like that everywhere else, or just here? Shit, the damned things ought to be banned because they make us nuts!
Well, if you take someone who knows absolutely nothing about operating a train, and put him at the controls of a train, you’re going to have a train wreck. And if you take someone who knows absolutely nothing about guns, and put him into a debate about guns, the debate is going to be a train wreck.
He’s certainly not the only one with an invariant grasp on stupidity in a gun thread. I’ve spent many posts trying to explain relative risk to gun advocates, but I’ll guarantee you the same stupid fuckers will be back to point out that cars are more dangerous than guns. They’ll also suggest that because they have an autistic level of knowledge about gun specs, they somehow have the upper hand in debating the public health issues involved. Finally, they’ll never concede an inch, but will simply fall back on false bravado. “Cops come for my guns, they’re just like looters so I’ll kill 'em.”
Yeah, whatever difficulties gonzomax might have, they don’t stand out in gun threads. Predictable stupidity is the norm.
I actually agree that the whole cars line of comparison in that thread was poor. Taking comparisons and analogies too far often is, because guns occupy a pretty unique niche in public policy, especially in the US.
This is a mischaracterization. I assume you’re referring to “assault weapons” threads in which gun advocates attempt to reveal the lies of the gun control lobby. Essentially “this is what they’re trying to make you think they’re banning. They’re not. This is what they’re banning”. It’s an attempt to counter the deception and deliberate spreading of ignorance of gun control advocates. They try to discredit it as nitpicking or something, but it’s not - their entire line of attack relies on deceiving people about what they’re actually doing, and this is an issue that I’d think even intelligent gun control advocates could side with us on. When I advocate a position, I hate when other people on my side lie. I’d hope that some of you would have the same character.
YIPICAYA MOTHERFUCKER!
There are idiots everywhere on any side of a debate - but Gonzo definitely stands out for hard headedness and ability to simply ignore anything that doesn’t exactly match his preconceptions.
But yes, this was a good one. I liked especially the “skidmark in the underwear of the SDMB” line.
That having been said, I feel a sneaking affection for the gonz-meister. I don’t think he is a troll in the classic sense of the term - this is just the way he looks at the world. I think it was Stephen King’s line - “when he was sixteen, he took a look at the world, slapped on two coats of varnish and one coat of quick-dry cement, and called it good”.
And there is no malice in him - he is just used to believing whatever the shop steward told him to believe, and it seems to have worked out for him, because he’s not listening.
I was going to say ‘it’s too bad’ but it isn’t. Every joke needs a punch line, and gonzo is someone you can count on to post it.
Actually, I posted an introductory sentence, followed with three examples to explain my thinking. The fact that you excised it to make an asinine remark is simply frustrating and misleading. It makes it less likely for me to read the rest of your comments without thinking “douche” right off the bat.
It isn’t just that thread. It’s every thread on guns, almost on every page. I guarantee you it will occur in the next one too, and it will almost certainly be from someone who I already took the time to explain the statistics, or the concept, or even walk through numerical examples with. Gun advocates are apparently unable to incorporate new information. They must suffer from reductions in neuroplasticity.
Please read carefully. I said people LIKE him. There are plenty of them. Gun control advocates that 1) Twist the facts and or 2) Simply don’t have the first clue about what they are talking about. They, them, those (plural) people do the honest intelligent gun control advocates a disservice.
Because of those dishonest and uniformed people, we all need to be extra diligent about any recommended gun control.
That makes about as much sense as saying we need to have increased gun control because a guy on the internet said he’d kill cops who were confiscating weapons because they would be like looters.
There are ways to evaluate the merit of positions that are independent of the nature of those advancing those positions. Operating otherwise is moronic.
And Hentor said ‘Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the hypocrisy raging through the OP’, which is a level of clueless stupidity that is at least in the same solar system with that shown by The Master (a.k.a. The Gonz) himself. While I don’t think Hentor is on the same level of stupidity as The Gonz this is most likely due to his innate intelligence which is slightly above pocket lint.
As for this language nazi bullshit, it seems to be the last resort of those who really have nothing interesting to say beyond criticizing others writing skills…such as yourself, Hentor. yawn I neither know nor care about some of what I consider to be silly and meaningless trivia in a language that is not my native tongue.
“It isn’t just that thread. It’s every thread on guns, almost on every page. I guarantee you it will occur in the next one too, and it will almost certainly be from someone who I already took the time to explain the statistics, or the concept, or even walk through numerical examples with. Gun advocates are apparently unable to incorporate new information.”
You’re essentially saying ‘I made an argument. They didn’t come to agree with this argument. Therefore they are set in their ways and incapable of seeing I’m right’
It’s true that you didn’t call them stupid. To me, an unwillingness to examine your own beliefs when challenged is… not quite stupid exactly, but it doesn’t help. So I suppose I mischaracterized what you said.