Obviously you’re not punching hard enough.
Wait, is that some subtle subtext in your post? Why yes, I believe it is. Here, let me fix it for you:
Problem is, most women that say this aren’t out there fighting the good fight, aka laying [me]. So naturally, [other guys] keep [getting laid]. In these women’s perfect world, [I wouldn’t be so whiny and obnoxious]. It’s a simple fact that [women won’t fuck me]. No one wants to ride the lamb, they want to ride the bull [and then have a delicious barbeque]. If you really want to change that, go lay [me]. Frequently.
Mods, can we please close this down?
No one wants to address the Becoming Alpha blog and what a travesty of suck it is. I had hoped we could trash it and have a little gleeful fun with such idiocy.
Nope, not gonna happen; it’s too close to well-rutted ground. No place for a fresh perspective here. We Dopers are only prepared to obsessively regurgitate what’s been said over and over and over about Game and Nice Guy/Asshole syndrome and the usual…the usual…the usual.
I had, thanks to a renewed interest in dating lately, put most of the old, helpless, cyclical discourse behind me. I had no desire to join, let alone begin, Yet Another Dating Thread. Well…"Just when I thought I was out - THEY PULL ME BACK IN." Thanks for the Michael Corleone moment.
The hivemind is like the heart, I guess. It wants what it wants. Well, it can choke on what it wants as far as I’m concerned.
Oh, and Chessic Sense, you win a special First Class Pitting, along with the shitheads behind Becoming Alpha. You’re obviously cut from the same cloth. “Simple facts” for simple minds.
There’s not much interesting discussion to be had in “Yep, they is sociopathic.” “Quite.” “Indubitably.”
That blog is stupid. We keep saying milquetoast Nice Guy here, but that’s not quite it - the Nice Guys who don’t get play and think it’s because they’re Too Nice aren’t actually milquetoasts or even all that nice; someone posted a link recently to someone talking about the Nice Guy problem - they’re basically guys who creep women out by not being genuine with them, but instead trying to do what they think women want them to do so they can get laid. It’s still all about them; the women in this equation are interchangeable “Insert woman here,” and damned if women can’t actually pick up on that.
Did I mention that blog is stupid?
+1. So why does this idiot deserve even be accorded a Pitting?
Sorry, Doug, I was composing while your post came in. I think we are discussing that blog - that guy is obviously a former Nice Guy who has gone on to not getting it* in new and spectacular ways.
*I mean not understanding things, but not getting sex works too. 
The (apparently unintended) satire gets exquisite when even intelligent and sophisticated women really just want to have their heads banged into the bed board, and when any man who won’t buy the bullshit is an omega loser who isn’t worth the gasoline to set him on fire.
Yes, but it can’t be said often enough.
Holy damn! I didn’t think anyone actually read my blog.
The thrill of Absolute Certainty and the solace of Embitterment often eclipse the doubt of not having all the facts. Such is life.
But there’s something peculiar about these Alpha-male blogs. There’s no shortage of blogs whose point is, basically, “We’ve taken their crap long enough and it’s time to let our superiority flow unrestrained!” Islamicists, Nazis, racial minorities, atheists who claim intellectual superiority to the religious, the religious who claim moral superiority to atheists, et cetera, et fucking cetera…
But these alpha males always add this to the premise: *“and they love it when we do!” *
There’s plenty of blogs saying “Drive Israel into the sea,” and argue that conciliation and accommodation are cowardice (the political version of the Nice guy Syndrome) But they never go so far as to say “Israelis just love being mortared from Gaza; they won’t admit it to their girlfriends but down deep they really do.”
You said a headful, Slithy. You put your finger on what is so enraging about these guys. They’ve created a closed system where there is no possibility that they might be wrong, or even less than 100 per cent naturally and rightfully the way they are. They need dignify no opposing views or trouble themselves with any ethical concerns. Theirs is a Perfect World - as pathetic as it is.
Thanks.
Heh, some do - the “self-hating Jew” trope. 
What the hell are you jumping on me for? even sven is the one that said it works. I never said “women want assholes”, I said that “women that sleep around want assholes”. So if you’re a guy that wants a women that sleeps around, you need to be an asshole. If you’re a women that hates assholes and want to change the paradigm, start sleeping around.
I’m not easily offended, but I do object to my intelligence being insulted, and that’s what the whole pseudopsychology of “Alpha/Beta/Omega” classifications mean to me, even when it’s not linked to “mesomorphic/ectomorphic/endomorphic” body-typing, or phreneology, or whatever other claptrap is in vouge.
Because so often in these discussions, an even more likely indicator its stupidity than the inevitability of Hitler being mentioned, is the phrase *“We’re like this because of our Caveman ancestors…” *being uttered in support of the theory. To which the only response is a caveman quote: “Ugh!”
I hope I wasn’t the only person disappointed by this week’s Dan Savage sex advice column that advanced the theory that monogomous women are going against the evolutionary grain, and guys like to watch porn because…our Caveman ancestors used to have gangbangs; it all makes sense now, doesn’t it? (which contradicts the alpha male theory, since alpha males keep the whole harem to themselves and the other guys can just wank it, because…that’s the way our Caveman ancestors did it.
Counterexample: me. Not an asshole. Alpha geek, at best. I do not have problems getting laid.
As to the rest of your post? Women (seem to) want confidence. That’s all there is to it. I can change nothing about my personality other than my approach but take dating, especially online dating. With the same generic I’m a geeky buddhist liberal profile (about as far from asshole as possible), I always got FAR better results from “So where do you wanna go on Friday?” than I do from “Would you like to do something this weekend?” Neither is assholish, but the first is both mildly presumptuous but comes across as supremely confident (especially if I’m conveying in other ways that I’m being good-natured rather than pushy).
Actually, i find that when the word “the,” or the word “is,” or the word “and,” is in a post of his, you can say pretty much the same thing.
There, see? It’s the sluts who want assholes. Get with the program.
Personally, that blog made me hawt. Reminds of my relationship with a fireman. Talk about alpha male. He made me feel like shit and I loved every minute of it. Phew! fans self
(That relationship ended a long time ago. I married a nice guy.)
Yes, as long as you don’t end up with the ones who test you over and over for greater and greater confidence. They’re sexual venture capitalists, waiting for the least little flash of a human frailty to give them the cue to say goodbye and look for a bigger man.
They’re the handmaidens of the shitheads I started this thread about.
Aha! That’s where your errors are. You’re thinking about relationships. Of course no one wants a relationship with an asshole. Only nice guys, or “alpha geeks”, have healthy, stable relationships. But that’s not what the douche bags in the blog are after. Those assholes just want laid.
And by asshole, I don’t mean where you throw food at the woman or punch her in the face. I’m talking about setting up a “you can’t have me” situation with maaaaybe a twist of “I’m out of your league.” It’s a forbidden fruit thing. It’s a Keeping Up With the Joneses thing. It’s playing hard to get. Someone else has it, so they want it. He says “You can’t get it” and the woman goes “Bet I can”, and hey, whaddaya know, she’s right.
As for me, I’d rather have a normal sex life than be an asshole. But as even sven said, it’d work.
Oh, please, not this again.
Excluded middle, to the nth power.
There’s a continent’s worth of middle ground between overbearing jerks and milquetoasty doormats, between guys who approach women as if they’re doing a favor to speak to her, and guys who can’t work up the guts to make the first move to begin with.
And most of the single guys in that middle ground are doing pretty well, I bet. If you’re a guy who has some idea of where he wants to go in life, is trying to get there, and is actually interested in the women he meets as people and not just as sex toys, chances are you’ll do well enough with women.