Okay, I know i’ve not been here long but i’m SERIOUSLY pissed off. Are there NO decent men out there anymore? It seems all of my female friends, and even aquaintences have been assaulted, abused or treated horribly at the hands of some dumb fuck. Ladies, I don’t blame a lot of you who don’t want to date, the pool is filled with shit. If I was gay, I wouldn’t want to take a dip in it either. :mad:
Now I KNOW that I can’t be the only man out there who prides himself at being a decent, honourable fellow. I’m not saying I don’t have faults, or bouts of temper. I have NEVER, however, assaulted a woman in ANY form; be it sexually, physically, emotionally, or whatever. Moreover, how fucking hard is it NOT TO CHEAT? It’s the easiest thing in the world not to do; you just don’t do it. Men, I’ve got to say, Sometimes I feel really dirty for being a member of the same gender as these pieces of trash.
In my entire, life excluding my father;(god bless that man for being a good role model for me!) I’ve known exactly TWO good guys. Considering I’ve studied at three colleges, and held several prfessional positions, I’d say that’s pretty piss poor.
So what about Dopers? Any of you have a relationship with, or are Nice Guys? I need my faith in humanity restored a little.
Well, now that i’ve said my bit, i’ll try to be optimistic again.
Cheers!
I’m a nice guy. Why, just the other day I was flirting with a thirteen year old girl, trying to boost her self esteem. My parole officer says I’m the nicest person she’s ever had to put an electronic tracking ankle device on.
Every other guy on this message board is a total prick, though.
I’m a bastard, (though I hope would never deliberately physically hurt someone, or (despite some temptation) cheat, and don’t mean to hurt anyone emotionally…), but anyway, some of my friends are genuinely nice.
Are you being too pessimistic? How well do you have to know someone before you can classify them nice/not nice? Have all your friends’ relationships been bad, or just a lot of noticable ones?
Fret not: gender equality is rapidly being achieved. From all accounts, an increasingly number of young women are also becoming promiscuous, abusive, alcoholic assholes.
Besides, what are the incentives for being a nice guy anymore? Being a jerk won’t hinder your career, won’t keep you from picking up women, won’t cost you any extra money – in fact, in some cases it may actually improve your situation.
I can’t get dates for anything. I’m fairly decent looking funny, fun and emotionally supportive. Yet I get the let’s be friends speech every time I ask someone out. Then they go and date losers like the OP mentioned.
I sympathize with any girl that dated a loser and was heartbroken. I don’t feel any sympathy for girls that continuously date losers but pass up good guys b/c there’s no ‘chemistry’. I honestly think chemistry is a bunch of shit made up by people that want to continue to date these jerks.
Guys are assholes. Seriously. Want the best observational method in the world? Ride the train/subway in every day. SEE! Older guys (60s) hitting on girls in high school uniforms. SEE! Guys calling a girl a bitch cause she won’t respond to them. Because she had headphones on. SEE! Guys riding the escalator, making rude comments at every girl who passes. SEE! A guy who smells terrible, is wearing old, ratty clothes, and looks like he just stepped off the set of a rap video hitting on a businesswoman in a very nice suit, then calling her a bitch when she turns him down.
I know what you mean about the gender equality Gyrate, and well, that doesn’t make me feel much better either. Perhaps it’s just wishful thinking, but would it be too much to ask for people to make an effort at being decent? Or conversly, if they just want to be selfish pricks, why not just make the intentions known up front instead of braking people’s hearts?
Really, though, that is the minor problem. The major issue I have is with the large amount of men creating abusive situations, and souring women’s opinions of all men afterward.
nonsense I say. Though there is enough whiney bitchy annoying ‘nice guys’ out there. I’m independent I don’t act like a martyr in my fights and I’m more then willing to give a girl space if she needs it. The only complaint my last gf had of me was I’m ‘passive aggressive’ which was funny would girls prefer I hit them when I was mad instead of going to cool down in a neutral corner before talking things over or breaking up. (well that and I don’t dance very well)
The reason I’m a ‘nice’ guy is I don’t cheat I don’t hit and I’m willing to talk about whatever is on my mind. (feelings are a little harder to talk about b/c I’m more logicly then emotionally oriented but I’m always willing to talk about her feelings)
Basically, it comes down to this, Deagan. Most of the time, us nice guys are so busy being nice to the girls that we don’t want to pressure them into a date. The assholes have no such restrictions, so they ask the girls out and get the dates while we sit at home as “just friends”.
Keep in mind what the great philosopher Chris Rock once said, “You know what a plutonic friend is to a woman? It’s like a dick in a glass case. ‘In case of emergency, break open glass.’”
Secondly, Not all nice men are “Emotional leeches” I believe it was?
Next… Why does being a decent person make me a wuss? I’ve never backed off in a fight, and i’m notorious for being overly aggresive and independant.
Lastly, Women for some perverse reason seem to seek out the guys with a “danger factor”. I don’t feel at all bad for them when they’ve been screwed once and don’t learn. What pisses me off is the bad name and stigma men are getting from women.
For example, striking up a conversation is now an automatic play to get into her pants, irregardless of topic. What the hell happened to friendly conversation? Maybe .I just want to be FRIENDS …I’m tired of the pervasive attitude, (at least in my area) That because i am in poseesion of a penis, that I am some sort of sexually abusive deviant bent only on my next evil conquest.
To be honest, that’s not being nice, considering the other two threads he had started about the same woman. That’s being walked upon by someone who doesn’t deserve your time, effort, or attention. Been there, done that, learned to avoid losers.
There’s a difference between being nice and being a doormat, Lamar.
