Double post since we both posted at the same time
I will try to mature, but the more challenge and expectation you give the less I am good to develop my posting habits.
It happens with every messageboard, hell people always poke fun at me at my grammar to derail my threads.
My grammar varies. If I am writing a big or very serious sentence, then I know it would just be better to go over that. Why bother with grammar with such short sentences?
Cutting the attitude, like your last sentence, would be a start.
You’ve been given a lot of great advice across your many, many threads. Start there.
Alright fine.
But you gotta understand the current attitude I have is a response to my sheltering and treatment as a person.
I have a developed a very big competitive attitude over the years.
Hell, there has been people who have wanted to assault me before.
And know I will not always use this as an excuse, but you have to understand where I am coming from to.
You want me to avoid political topics? Fine, I will just try to handle my annoyance with the current political situation in America. Is hard, but I cannot let it take over my thinking either.
That would be a good start.
You’ll find that we care quite a bit more about grammar than most other corners of the internet. So long as you have that attitude, you are not likely to ever be taken seriously around here.
If you don’t have the ability to handle political topics in a mature way, then yes, don’t start threads about them. Read threads about them- especially ones with good discussion and debate so you can see where your posts went wrong.
If your upbringing is affecting your interactions, then be quiet and listen (that is, read good posts) to how others successfully handle things, and model your behavior after them. Then start putting what you’ve learned into practice. I had a crappy upbringing too and that’s how learned.
It’s ok if you’re not good at it yet- learn and get better.
And yeah, better grammar (no one ever said perfect) is never a bad thing.
For folks late to the game, there is a Pit thread that includes this person.
Sure, I’ll bite one last time and then I think I’m done.
If nobody challenges you or sets any expectations, there’s no reason for you to try. What would be the point?
As to “why bother”? Well, if you want to actually communicate in good faith, it would help if you made an effort so people can understand your message. Until then, people in general are either going to assume you’re not a legitimate poster, or give up on trying to talk to you. If you’re legitimate and you care, you have to show it. It would also help if you stopped falling back on your upbringing and personal issues as excuses. Quite a few people have taken the time to be patient and cut you slack, but nobody here has infinite patience for someone that acts like they can’t or won’t try.
The best advice I’ve seen, that you immediately dismissed, is to read more and post less.
No- this is an end run around the “don’t call people trolls outside the pit” rule. Not cool and don’t do that again.
One thing that might help is when someone indicates that they don’t understand a point that you are making, you try to clarify yourself, not just post a link to a meme of someone shrugging and saying “Oh, you.” People don’t expect perfect grammar here–but we sure appreciate making an attempt at it. And answering questions directly instead of going on a tangent. And not using “lol” in every reply unless you are very literally laughing out loud as you read/reply.
Maybe stop starting so many threads all the time. Instead, try participating in others, and don’t just talk at people. Don’t post just for the sake of posting. (Which is the impression I’m getting) Only post if you have something to actually add, and don’t veer wildly from one topic from another.
Oh, and stop starting so many threads. That’s the big one. Seriously dude, you seem to want to start topics, rather than join others. Chillax.
Alright, alright, alright. I will take time to take the advices into consideration…
The reason I tend to start many threads is just hard seeing what can interest me right away.
But I agree that is even boring me at same time. So yeah will try to cut the thread creating a bit down.
And I understand some points are gonna be imperfect [from me] cause you know is what helps me think.
I will try to post less, is really hard because discussion is what helps me think.
I already have a bit of my insight on gun control and I am still trying to look at the issue from both sides. Really not a gun person myself anyways, so I could give 5 asses less if they wanted to ban guns.
But whatever can help.
In all seriousness, there is a Pit thread involving this person. He started it. Oddly, it’s rather like this one. It just starts at a slightly different place.
Hi, Luciano. I’m not sure you really need my advice. I’ve always been competitive and I’ve never felt the need to ask for advice even when I could actually use some. But that may happen due to another reason and that’s where my two cents come into play. I’ve always worked hard to develop/improve my skills and learn more. Because competitiveness can become a huge problem if your knowledge and abilities (which often make your means to achieve your goals) do not match your goals. In other words, make yourself useful and you’ll end up feeling fulfilled because people will admire you as a professional and maybe tolerate your idiosyncrasies as well.
I believe that was from member Aaron Burr.
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Discussion helps you?
You have not participated in a single adult discussion since you arrived at this board. Trying to carry on a conversation with you is like talking with your dog. You don’t respond when asked for clarification, you don’t address people’s objections to your half baked nonsense.
Even if you can form actual thoughts, (it’s a BIG if!), you clearly can’t express yourself beyond a fifth grade level. If you can think or communicate higher brain function you haven’t demonstrated it to us.
It’s all just nonsensical twattle, that jumps from thing to thing without any sense. It’s just stupid word salad, on and on…
Discussion? You can’t even manage conversationin in it’s most rudimentary form.
The OP invited advice, but this post is veering into insults/ridicule. Use the Pit for that, not this thread in this forum.
No warning issued, but I will start issuing warnings to people who post inappropriately for this forum:
>No trolling accusations (direct or indirect)
>No personal insults, even if veiled under “giving advice”
This instruction is for everyone.
Sorry, I got mixed up with the other thread, thought I was in the pit. My bad, it won’t happen again.
Good.
Just remember that both sides of a discussion have equal obligations. You present facts and opinions, and you show respect by listening to what other people have to say and responding in kind.
Let’s look at your thread about processed foods:
You start by asking a pretty reasonable question. You’re provided with some details. All well and good. It all goes kind of downhill from there.
Here’s a list of things you claimed or repeated in that thread:
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[li]Processed foods cause Crohn’s disease.[/li][li]Bleach is used to soften flour.[/li][li]Large amounts of our food supply has “been affected” by processing and this is “frightening.”[/li][li]Additives in sports drinks are known to cause ADHD.[/li][li]Global warming in America isn’t as bad as global warming in China.[/li][li]L-Cysteine is in our bagels and that’s gross.[/li][li]Bottled water is made from urine, which is why it tastes like plastic.[/li][/ul]
Posters who took the time to provide you with counterfactual evidence were dismissed. Posters who asked for citations or clarification of your ideas were likewise dismissed. You responded to most everyone by bouncing from one claim to the next.
And yeah, you also got made fun of. Welcome to the Dope. 
My point is this: if you want to be taken seriously in any conversation, you have to engage with people.
It’s okay to ask questions, but only if you’re willing to accept the answers.
It’s okay to disagree with the answers, but only if you can back up your points with evidence.
It’s okay to provide evidence, but only if it’s real evidence and not some random, unsourced website you dug up that happens to agree with you.
It’s okay to be wrong.
If you stick around, you’ll learn a lot. But this is our playground and we’ve got really weird rules about who’s allowed to use the tire swing.
Well then I would appreciate a tip on how to be more consistent with my discussions. Maybe not consistent, but I want to keep a clear character of myself. I suppose that clarifies it.