Nope, since that is a fact. And your snide little attacks on Biden only help trump too.
. . .because of the cost. He has said repeatedly that the estimated cost of $20-30 trillion dollars would be fiscally irresponsible and financially catastrophic, and that the time it would take to implement such a system would make people wait for years instead of helping them NOW by improving and modifying a system already in place. That’s practicality speaking, not pie-in-the-sky schemes.
He did. But he wouldn’t ask his supporters to stop the attacks on Clinton.
I know several Bernie-bros, and no, they are not directly pawns of Putin. Yes, they gleefully passed on whatever fake news the Kremlin put out attacking Hillary and now Biden, but they are honest supported of Bernie. They have even said they will vote for Biden. Still, they couldn’t stop attacking Biden or Hillary, even after it was obvious those two had won.
OK
It’s highly misleading to trot out this 30 trillion dollars figure for M4A without comparing it to the cost of the status quo. Medicare for All raises taxes, but it saves money overall because it eliminates premiums.
He’s still asking supporters to give him as many delegates as possible in the remaining primaries. (see just past minute 34 in the video, as well as a comment though not a quote in the written news story.) So I don’t suppose we’re entirely done with hearing people arguing about votes for Sanders.
Other than that – very relieved to see this. Biden wasn’t my candidate this time around – the closest I had to a favored candidate in this race was Warren, and I originally hoped that somebody better than Warren would surface. But Biden is the candidate we’ve got; and he’s massively better than Trump. And there is no third-party candidate with a hope in hell of beating Trump; that’s the choice we’ve got.
I think it’s important not to take this s too badly and end up infighting.
The left has to decide how to respond now their compromise candidate has dropped out.
A first step would be to ensure the right understands they will need to appeal to all voters now.
Maybe Bernie as VP or at least start supporting government healthcare for all Americans.
Something to help Biden stand out from Trump.
It could yes, by re-jiggering the economy in a massive way. It wouldn’t be easy.
He also didnt say he would veto M4A, read his actual words:
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“I would veto anything that delays providing the security and the certainty of health care being available now,” Biden responded. “If they got that through in by some miracle or there’s an epiphany that occurred and some miracle occurred that said, ‘OK, it’s passed,’ then you got to look at the cost.”
Biden added: “I want to know, how did they find $35 trillion? What is that doing? Is it going to significantly raise taxes on the middle class, which it will? What’s going to happen?”*
*“Our opponents do not speak for us and should never be allowed by the press to put words in the Vice President’s mouth. He did not say ‘veto,’” Bates said. “He made clear that his urgent priority is getting to universal coverage as quickly as possible and he explained why he firmly believes our approach should be to build on the profound benefits of the Affordable Care Act with a Medicare-like public option.” *
So, Biden didnt say he would Veto M4A unless it* "delays providing the security and the certainty of health care being available now,”*.
Doing nothing and keeping the current system will cost 50 trillion in health care costs over the next decade. Medicare for all will cost 30 trillion.
We’re going to end up paying tens of trillions of dollars no matter what we do. At least with medicare for all we save 20 trillion that we can use to pay down the debt, fund education, fund renewables, etc.
I just hope Biden makes a good decision WRT his Veep candidate.
You either think its important to stop Trump from another four years and the GOP from packing the supreme court for our entire lifetimes or you don’t, if someone hurting your widdle feelings plays any part at all in this decision you were a lost cause to begin with.
No-one cares what you think. It was obnoxious. I doubt you’ll ever understand why, but that doesn’t matter. Nothing hinges on your understanding.
Huh? And here I thought I’d just got done saying my widdle feelings weren’t hurt and I would be voting for Joe. Guess I need to work on my writing.
I’m hearing that he is strongly leaning towards…
Hillary
That’s funny. Worked my ass off for Pete, voted Joe in Illinois primary and would have voted for Shitbag Sanders had he gotten the nomination
This is you parodying Trump, right? Because otherwise it’s just idiotic.
No, that’s not true.
(Emphasis Mine) The kids in cages appreciate your sacrifice.
I mean, have you even paid attention to the shit that went down during the Trump presidency? Even a little?
And yet you seem determined to alienate Bernie supporters. That can do nothing but hurt Biden and help Trump. Does your hatred of “Shitbag Sanders” outweigh your desire to see Trump gone?
Yeah, how about the full quote:
He wants to ensure nobody is denied healthcare while fighting for something which will never pass anyway, and he wants to be able to pay for it. Meet those conditions and he will sign it.
I don’t care if you don’t believe me (or him) it won’t happen so it’s a bullshit talking point with no basis in reality. But if you’re gonna use bullshit talking point hypotheticals, at least use the entire quote.