Bernie Withdraws

I don’t think she’d accept it.

Eight months, FWIW.

I think they’re meaning early STAGE dementia.

Those of you who know more about this than I do can tell me more: Some people are saying that Biden stutters off camera and his verbal gaffes are a way to avoid it in live broadcasts and rallies.

It is an absolutely certain election loser. Hillary Clinton had her shot, and she blew it. This truly would alienate the progressive wing. She does not deserve another chance, and she is already too old to be President. (So is Biden. So is Trump, and so was Sanders.)

He needs a running mate who isn’t a fossil, isn’t a loser, and actually helps win the election, preferably one who can deliver a swing state.

You know, it’s not difficult to find info about Biden’s stutter.

He needs to do it in mid-to-late October. Otherwise, it goes in one ear and out the other.

IMO, what he needs to do is to explain to his supporters that what they really need to do is to vote in the Progressive candidates in the House (and Senate, if there are any). It doesn’t really matter who is President if the Congress doesn’t match the ideology. Enough Progressives side with the Republicans, and it’s, “Green New Deal, or No Deal for the One-Termer.” Of course, that assumes that they can get anything through the Senate…

The question is, how many Bernie supporters are under the impression that they won’t be able to primary out Biden in 2024 if he wins in 2020, so the only path to Bernie 2024 starts with Trump 2020 - and they make it a point to vote for Trump just to make sure it happens?

See above for an alternative, albeit much less likely, method to get Bernie nominated by the Democrats in 2024.

He says he wants as many delegates as possible so they can have some say in the platform. Refresh my memory - when was the last time any candidate felt that they were bound by their party’s platform?

I’m a registered Green. What state are you in? Is it by any reasonable reckoning a swing state, one that could go for Trump or could go for Biden, depending upon how people vote?

I’m not. I live in New York. If New York comes anywhere close to casting its electoral votes for Trump, Biden is very dead in the water already and New York won’t matter.

If you don’t live in a swing state, you can vote Green and not be “helping Trump”.

How did McConnell trick or scam anyone then? He followed Senate rules, just as Schumer has done but with less leverage. Is there anyone in America who thinks that Schumer therefore tricked or scammed McConnell?

Bijou is, I think, in NC, which is possibly a swing state. Maybe you could offer to trade votes?

Possibly. Possibly not.

According to that, McConnell played Biden like a chump in 2010 when Harry Reid had McConnell in a vulnerable position. I see no reason this won’t just keep happening over and over.

Please no. She had her chance. Its going to be hard enough to get the progressive wing behind Biden.

Biden would be better off picking a female progressive. Warren is nice but with this virus her age is an issue.

Just to add to this, reading the fourth article is a good piece of info.

Democratic senators were pretty upset with how incompetent and submissive Biden was in doing McConnells bidding in extending the Bush tax cuts.

This behavior is going to continue. The republicans will scam Biden like the gullible, naive chump he is and he will sell out his voters in the name of ‘bipartisanship’, even if it pisses off and alienates democrats in congress and likely democratic voters.

I mean, he is still better than Trump by a huge margin. But I wouldn’t expect him to accomplish much. McConnell scammed Biden when the GOP only had 41 senators.

You guys might be right, but I think it is an idea that has some merits. We’ll see who he picks. And you’re probably right, he probably won’t pick her.

Well Bernie 2028, then. Problem solved.

Too old. Way too old.

That is not dead which can eternal lie.
And with strange aeons even death may die.

In wake of Bernie dropping out, Jill Stein is now calling upon progressives to leave the Democratic Party.

The #demexit people would be funny if they didn’t have a chance to be truly dangerous.

Biden supporters please get cracking with the reasons why Biden is good.

The lesser of two evils stuff is not going to cut it.

Look, I’m only responding to what you said about McConnell having no power once the GOP is in the minority. He has the power, just as he did in the minority from 2010-2014, to bring the Senate to a halt, to make sure not a damn thing gets through, no matter how badly the Dems want it.

This is why Harry Reid got rid of the filibuster for lower court appointments in 2013: McConnell was blocking their confirmation, wholesale. Only killing the filibuster for this particular purpose restored the Dems’ power to put judges on the federal District Courts and Circuit Courts of Appeals.

The filibuster is still in place for regular legislation. As long as that’s true, a Minority Leader has a great deal of power. Other than for judicial appointments, he can grind the Senate to a halt, and make sure none of the legislation the majority party wants can get through.

The difference between Schumer and the Democrats and McConnell and the GOP is that the Dems aren’t going to threaten to blow up the whole system just to get their way, the way McConnell did with the debt limit, for instance.

This isn’t a criticism, btw - neither party should be willing to do shit like that. But if one party is and the other isn’t, it gives a tremendous negotiating advantage to the party that is willing to blow shit up.