It’s going to be so heartbreaking when the obvious thing happens and Jimmy gets screwed out of his share of $20M.
Which is why it seems so likely that something entirely different is going to happen.
I also notice that Michael Mando (Nacho) has his name in the opening credits, but we haven’t seem him in about 5 episodes. Seems likely he’ll be back, although how he could relate to the nursing home storyline is beyond me. And I feel like Mike needs to get looped back in somehow as well.
This is definitely up there with the very best shows currently on TV.
Interesting theory, it’s definitely possible. It would explain why we don’t see Chuck in BB, it’s because they had a falling out. It would be more tragic than HHM screwing over Jimmy.
I don’t think Chuck is or will ever mean to be Jimmy’s nemesis. I don’t think Chuck was visibly proud and happy because he’s not as outwardly emotional, and he was surprised since he thought of (and still thinks of) Jimmy as his screw-up younger brother. But I could see maybe Hamlin convincing Chuck with a logical explanation that it would be best for everyone if something happened that left Jimmy out in the cold.
Yeah, I think even if BB had never existed I’d still be enjoying BCS. But having watched BB, brings a layer of tragedy to BCS, since we know that Saul will never get the respect he wants. Also brings more tragedy to Mike’s story, since we know he went down a bad road because feels guilt for his son and wants to take care of his granddaughter. The stuff from BB makes Jimmy and Mike’s stories more compelling, but I think I would find them compelling even on their own.
Yes, I keep waiting for Nacho to pop back up. It doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll be related to the nursing home storyline. He wasn’t happy how things ended up with Jimmy, it could that Jimmy is dealing with all that stuff and wondering how things could get any worse and then Nacho walks in with a demand and/or a threat.
Without BB, the opening of BCS makes very little sense - and only by continuing into BB could we ever understand why he’s looking back on his legal career while working in a Cinnabun under an assumed name.
He didn’t need to do that. You can go to any law library and look up those cases for free (and could then as well). You can Shepardize the cases too (which is a reverse directory of case law - you look up case law - like Miranda v Arizona and it lists every case that mentions that case). It would take an hour tops to pull the four (I think it was four) cases, Shepardize them, and copy the four cases and the listings in Shepard’s citations. Normally you wouldn’t copy every case you shepardize - especially cases like Miranda v. Arizona - as you could have hundreds or even thousands of cases (he might know these are lightly cited perhaps - but I doubt it). Since he is going to have to read them anyway - he’d be better off reading the four cases (which he needs to do anyway) and picking the parts that are relevant (which is what the “headnotes” that she mentioned) allows you to do.
He also only gave the name of the cases. They’ve done pretty well on legal stuff so far (they mention in the podcast they don’t know much about the law) - they got the Shepardize part right, but you’d give the full citation (unless the article or whatever didn’t mention them - which no legal publication would normally do). So it would be something like Smith vs Disher, 392 F.Supp. 286 (ignoring unpublished or recent decisions that would be west law only - but you won’t find much citing them). Otherwise you might pull a case with the same name - plus it’s impolite when asking a favor to have the other person figure out which case it is.
So I think you are on to something - the only reason to mention that code is to move the plot forward.
I’m expecting something like “I knew you could take on Sandpiper and I wanted to help… but when I heard that it was a chain of nursing homes across state lines, I realized that a struggling, inexperienced lawyer would never be able to take on a case this big by himself, so why don’t you just let HHM handle it?”
I disagree. If you saw Breaking Bad, you UNDERSTAND more of the flashforward opening but there’s no reason that someone going in blind, wouldn’t assume that the flashforward has to do with the events of BCS.
I also don’t think people should assume that because we didn’t see so-and-so on BB, that means something must happen to them. Saul was a supporting character on BB, there’s no reason to assume his personal life supporting cast would show up on Walt’s show.
I agree that HHM will screw Jimmy out of the class action lawsuit somehow, but I don’t think Chuck will be an active part of that. The way I took the ending is that Chuck was fine going outside until he realized that he was outside, at which point he froze and dropped the box. I think he’s about to have another episode that could put him completely out of commission.
They’ve made it pretty clear that when Jimmy is doing good, Chuck is doing good. So if Chuck gets put out of commission, it will probably be Jimmy’s doing. Sneaky underhanded tricks to pay back Hamlin for stealing his case, maybe.
Not a lawyer, not even on TV, but I’m thinking that from a legal standpoint, the case already belongs to HHM. IIRC Chuck is still officially a partner, and he just used HHM’s facilities, and an employee, to do about $400 of case-related printing on HHM’s nickel. Seems like it would be hard to argue that it isn’t their case now.
Anyway, yeah, looks like Jimmy is totally screwed on this one.
The impression that I got was he started to freak out then just realized that he was fine outside. As in he just had a sort of “OMG it was all in my head moment”
There’s also the chance that they had a really solid $1 million case and Chuck just screwed it up because he’s out of practice and out of the loop, and totally overreached.
It’s still Jimmy’s case. The clients are his. But I’d say HHM could make a fair legal claim to half of the fees at this point. The question is how they will screw Jimmy out of his share. We shall see.
(Did Jimmy actually sign up any of his clients, though, other than the one old lady? Don’t remember if they covered that.)
Whose case it is is up to the clients. HHM can claim a share of the fees at this point, but it’s the clients who decide who represents them. Which is why I was wondering if Jimmy got them all signed up.
Wow. As a lawyer who does a lot of the type of work that Chuck does (class actions, RICO), I was amazed at the attention to some very fine detail in this episode. For example, when Chuck emerges from his foggy hypochondria ("$20 million"), he starts rattling off the quite accurate legal punch list of items to be prepared at once. He stated that he would prepare a motion for conditional certification of the class action that “they will try to pierce” in order to get discovery going. The thing is, conditional certifications were eliminated from the Federal Rules in December, 2003. But upon checking on this “error,” I see that what is happening in the show is occurring in 2002, when this “tricky” device was still around. Kudos!
As for Jimmy’s getting cut out of the entire fee, I can see only 2 ways this could really happen, both draconian events, but I won’t venture out on that.
Jimmy probably cares more about the victory than the fee in many respects. He’s finally earned his brother’s respect and showed Hamlin that he’s competent and should have hired him.
Even if he’s competent that doesn’t mean they should have hired him. There’s plenty of competent lawyers that didn’t graduate from a Mickey Mouse school. Image needs to be preserved.