Hmmm…interesting thought. I like it. All due credit to you if that turns out to be a seed the producers deliberately introduced.
It’s probably just me, but I thought Kim trying to take Mesa Verde with her was completely unprofessional.
It’s probably also just me, but when Howard and Chuck were talking at the house, I kept hearing, “It’s not your job to be as confused as Nigel!” in my head.
I can’t speak for lawyers, but I think it’s pretty common. I’ve had sales people leave one company and call me from their next company.
Also, Howard and Chuck didn’t bat an eye at the thought of Kim attempting to take Mesa Verde. I mean, they were annoyed, but they certainly acted like it might happen. And I seem to recall situations where when a professional is trying to get hired by another firm one of the things they’ll mention is the size of their client base and how many of those clients they think they’ll be able to bring with them.
Lastly, and only because it would probably be relevant in a case like this. She called Paige(?) from her cell phone where she already had the contact info. She didn’t quit and then go run back to her office and steal the contact information (though I thought Howard would have her escorted off the premises). She also did, I assume, fully disclose the situation. She didn’t hide anything.
Lawyers do not have “do not compete” clauses in their contracts?
Do Not Compete clauses can cover a wide variety of things, I’ve seen them as strict as “You can’t work in the same field for X years/within X miles”, but I can’t imagine any lawyer would sign on with a firm if there was something that restrictive. Lawyers come and go all the time. If you pay attention to the firms in your metropolitan area, you’ll often notice that lawyers jump from one firm to another regularly, often times, even the named partners do it.
I would speculate that no, she didn’t have one. Maybe it’s not common, maybe it’s not done, maybe she didn’t sign one has part of joining HHM, who knows, but clearly (at least with what we’ve seen) HHM didn’t use any legal tactics to shut down Kim walking off with them so it’s probably safe to say that there wasn’t one in place (or if there was it didn’t bar her from doing what she did, she tends to walk on the right side of the legal line).
If Danny Trejo appears in BCS, watch that episode immediately followed by Breaking Bad’s “Negro y Azul”.
Y’know…machete order.
There is la wide range of what is even legal and/or legally binding wrt non compete clauses. In many jurisdictions a non compete clause as part of a medical practice would be basically illegal and I imagine it would be similar for lawyers. Such a clause would basically be forcing people to give up their doctor or lawyer. But I think some jurisdictions have ruled that non competes are just generally unenforceable for any business.
It would be even better if, perhaps as a result of Jimmy’s actions, she went to work as a Federal prosecutor when her attempt at a private practice failed.
Re: Fifi of the episode title…you can take a ride on that B-29 this summer. The cheap seats are only $570.
Maybe it’s just too undermine how experienced and professional HHM really is if they can get something as simple as an address wrong. An error like that would drive Chuck up the wall, and might make the new clients reconsider whether they made the right choice.
Agreed. Chuck’s entire pitch was that HHM would be able to offer better attention to detail.
Indeed. Jimmy would know this would be the kind of thing that would drive Chuck over the edge. He’d never be able to go into a meeting with lights and cell phones on to convince Mesa Grande it was harmless error.
Yeah, didn’t he just?
The brothers have always been presented as opposites - lax, fast-talking, empathetic Jimmy and meticulous, painfully honest, socially awkward Chuck. But when the chips were down Chuck read his audience, got them off-guard, told them the tale and had them eating out of his hand by the finish. Appealing to the old guy by talking about how great young and hungry people were was masterful. It was a performance Jimmy could have been proud of.
Where did that come from? Does he realise how much he’s learned from Jimmy?
I also noticed that when we first saw Chuck working at his desk just before Howard came in, the sunlight was streaming through the open windows and shining on him. We know that Chuck’s illness is purely psychosomatic but it was interesting that when he’s absorbed in work he forgets to panic about the electromagnetism in the sun’s rays - foreshadowing his ability to get through the meeting with Mesa Verde.
Given the title was “Fifi” and the role of the plane was as a prop in one of Jimmy/Saul’s ideas for a marketing/baiting commercial, it seems that the main point was “on his own, Jimmy will be Jimmy, unrestrained by any authority”. The episode ends with him “righting a perceived wrong” versus Chuck, but clearly in an illegal manner… who knows what the future will bring? As mentioned up-thread, were this not a prequel to Breaking Bad we might not think this is the road to ruin.
Sure hope to see that commercial!
It’s probably (hugely?) important to remember that the airplane in question wasn’t used to attack the Nazis, but rather drop atomic bombs on Japan.
It might not be relevant, but for full disclosure, Enola Gay and Bockscar were both B-29 Superfortresses but I’m not sure if Fifi (it’s a real war-era plane) ever flew any missions during WWII or Vietnam. You’ll notice that when Fudge said (paraphrasing) ‘The Nazis? We used planes like this to attack the Japs’.
But if Jimmy get’s called on using a Nuclear era plane he may have some wiggle room if he can show that it was just used in Vietnam. And Fifi seems to be more for show.
Anyways, that’s all to say, that most likely nothing will come of it, but he picked the wrong plane, it looked nice but it destroyed Japan instead of Germany. Even he knew he made a mistake when Fudge pointed that out.
I’ve never worked in the legal profession, but I’m also surprised that Kim’s contract doesn’t prevent her from poaching clients when she leaves. I mean, a few years ago my wife’s hairdresser left the shop where she worked to open her own, and her contract prohibited her from even telling her regular clients that she was leaving or where she was going. My wife had to ask around to find her again.
I know a lawyer who did this when starting his own firm. It was quite a while ago and firms may be more careful now. Another thing to consider is that lawyers don’t like to sue each other. If they sue Kim over this then she might open the door to a closet full of skeletons. We’ve had other threads about non-competes, there’s a lot of details to consider, the legality of the agreements, consideration for the non-competition, and perhaps the general principle that parties can use the legal representation that they want. It doesn’t help HHM to tell Mesa Grande they can’t use their preferred law firm.
Maybe screwing up the address will take some time to notice and correct and they miss some filing deadline because of it. Maybe set some part of the plans back a year.
I took away from what Jimmy was doing was pretty much only screwing over his brother. Seems he wants Chuck to screw up the address and when all the paperwork gets turned in Jimmy was going to go back and put the original copies back in the files. It looked to me that Jimmy made two copies, one to cut up and one to paste on, leaving the originals alone. This way Chuck can do the paper work, then when people go back and look at the originals they see the correct address and think Chuck is really losing it.
It did seem that Jimmy had a bit of remorse when Chuck said thanks to Jimmy and he would do the same if the roles were reversed. Though Jimmy really crossed the line with that stunt, that’s not a little bit over the line, that’s way over the line and probably past a few other lines too.
Do we know that Mesa Verde had actually signed with HHM? Maybe they were still in the process which is why Kim thought they might switch. Even Jimmy told her to call MV first before telling Howard she’s leaving.
Is that the same office that Saul has in BB? I couldn’t remember what it looked like honestly.
I figured the two copies where so Jimmy could keep one for himself. That way Kim could hit the ground running when they came crawling back.
No, not the same office. The BB office had the front grimy space with the sliding glass window for receptionist and behind that was Saul’s almost grand office. One big room. If it was something before hand it may have been a doctor/dentist type place, but it wasn’t this place.