I think it was more recognition of impending strongarm tactics, something not unfamiliar to former residents of more corrupt countries.
I don’t think Kim gets dragged to Cinnabon, she definitely wasn’t sharing the gaudy office with Saul so I think she was at least partially out of the picture by BB time frame. While my money is on Jimmy adopting the “Saul” persona after destroying Chuck, it’s also possible that he wins over Chuck and keeps being mostly legitimate. In that case, breaking up with Kim or her dying may be what pushes him to go over to criminal lawyer.
And you tend I think to miss more starting to watch modern (regular network) weekly shows a few seasons in than many years ago, more ‘longer arcs’ of story you missed.
I watched and liked (though not one of those who is sure it was the best show ever) BB. I think in general BCS is leaning only a reasonable amount on BB viewers looking for particular ‘Easter eggs’. But showing the Pollos Hermanos sign, what would it really mean to a new view? was certainly one of them. More broadly though my curiosity about the bigger questions posed by BCS v BB* is one thing driving my interest in BCS. That alone would not sustain my interest if BCS stunk, which it doesn’t IMO, but it’s part of the appeal and wouldn’t be there if I had’t watched BB or had watched part of it but quit because I didn’t like it.
And on the last point I can see someone quitting BB because just fed up with Walter and not enough to sustain interest if you dislike him enough. Jimmy/Saul so far IMO is a closer to neutral mix of positive and negative in an anti-hero than Walter became.
*how exactly did Saul become Saul, whatever happened to Kim, etc.
Also, aside from not calling the cops, ALL of those employees were scheduled the day after???
Has there ever been a more likable drug lord than Gustavo Fring?
Given your choice, would you prefer to
- learn more about his pre Pollos Hermanos backstory and how he came from Chile (where it’s strongly implied he was not a peasant farmer) to Mexico to New Mexico
-keep it a mystery so you can create your own backstory
Generally I’d go with 2, but with Vince Gilligan I’d rather go with his version.
Do you think Chuck will end up being disbarred, committed, both, or neither? Either way, I hope Michael McKean gets a long overdue Emmy this year.
I loved the opening scene. Did anyone else notice something near the end of that scene? During the few moments of the quiet close up of Hector, you could hear wind chimes ringing.
You know, after reading both of your posts, bringing up the current day Gene at Cinnabon and (what may happen) ending Jimmy & Kim’s relationship/friendship, left me with an image. Final episode of BCS, Gene working at the Cinnabon, looks up to see… Kim(!) walking through the mall.
Either:
• It’s not really her, Gene/Jimmy/Saul looks sad… fade out
• It’s really her, she doesn’t see him, Gene/Jimmy/Saul looks sad… fade out
• It’s really her, she sees him, looks wistful, continues walking away, Gene/Jimmy/Saul looks sad… fade out
• It’s really her, she sees him, looks wistful, Gene/Jimmy/Saul walks away, Kim looks sad… fade out
You know, writing all of that down made me really depressed.
Have they mentioned why Don Eladio is known as the Winking Greek?
Everyone but me seems to like the Jimmy and Kim relationship. To me it seems like a complete mismatch.
She’s way too good for him and he’s going to drag her down if she doesn’t get away from him.
He keeps disappointing her with his behavior and she keeps coming back for more.
That whole business was a little unclear to me. Did Hector open an ice cream store (to launder money maybe), or was he just saying that he’d discovered one that was coincidentally named after Don Eladio’s nickname?
I agree completely. I hope she leaves him for somebody legit.
OTOH, sleazy as Jimmy is, and as far from victimless as his “indiscretions” have been, and as over-the-top as he was in his anger and attack on Chuck, I still want to see Chuck get his ass and his ripped up law license handed back to him. It will be the second most losing face in the saga.
Makes me think about the possibility of the opposite effect from making new non-BB BCS watchers feel short changed by too much reference to BB. If it turned out Kim was still around somehow in Saul’s life, in any way, in BB time but never mentioned*, I think some BB fans would be uneasy with that ‘tear in the fabric of the universe’.
I see that as a very remote chance. IMO it’s a virtual certainty something bad related to Kim (at least from Jimmy’s POV) is a big part of the genesis of Saul the criminal lawyer. It’s possible that for some commercial reason the show gets cut off before the answer is revealed, and viewers could imagine she was still somehow in Saul’s life in BB time, but if they get to finish their idea I’m pretty sure her not being around will be central to why Saul is where he is by BB time.
*no technically there’s no reason Saul would have had to mention his wife/SO whose work was no longer related to his (even when planning to go on the lam and change his identity?) but anyway strange we’d never have heard of her if she was still around.
I thought he was going to pee in the pool again.
Yeah, I’m not so sure that he and Jimmy are all that different. The way he set Jimmy up is a trick worthy of Slippin’ Jimmy.
Chuck does have the excuse of mental illness, but I get the impression that the unethical behavior existed before that.
I agree that from Kim’s POV this is an utter disaster of a relationship. If she were some SDMB newbie posting in IMHO about her boyfriend trouble everyone would be advising her to run away fast :p. But Jimmy has a certain slick but hangdog charm, she’s shown an attraction for just a bit of his cunning dark side and as an on screen couple their chemistry is undeniable.
The fallacy of sunk costs is indeed a fallacy and Kim should know better and cut her losses. But the heart wants what the heart wants. Just one more( very, very likely ) doomed relationship in a sea of millions.
Not to mention they’re leasing office space together. They kind of have to support each other at this point.
I’m wondering how and why the Air Force officer is going to reappear. That was too good a scene for there not to be a callback.
Best episode of the season so far imo.
I think he either opened it or bought it and changed the name so he’d have a reason to ship things across the border. It might launder some money, but I think the main reason is he was able to find a driver willing to work for him who got along well with the border patrol, and delivering ice cream gives him a reason for regularly crossing.
I think they’re very different - Jimmy doesn’t care about legal ethics at all, but has a strong sense of morality. So he doesn’t mind faking evidence to get the ‘right’ result, he scams assholes instead of family men desperately trying to scrape money together for a kid’s birthday present, he gets personally offended at people taking advantage of elders, and so on. Meanwhile Chuck has a very strong sense of ethics, especially legal ethics, but very little moral concern about other people. He isn’t offended at Sandpiper taking advantage of the old people, he just thinks it’s a good case. He doesn’t care about trashing Ernesto’s career to get at Jimmy, what he did was legal and even justifiable. He will absolutely follow the law to the letter, but not because it helps people, just because it’s the law.
IMO the way this show pokes into people’s moral and ethical systems is very interesting to me, I really didn’t expect it when I started watching.