Better Call Saul (Season 3)

Jimmy was charged with a crime, he plead guilty, and part of his sentence is to deliver his confession to the bar association. I’m not sure why you think he’s gotten off. He got the same deal a first time speeder or drunk driver might get, leniency, but he’s still being punished. It’s already done.

The only question is whether the bar association will revoke his license or not. It’s presumed that they will. Because they aren’t judges, this is not part of Jimmy’s punishment, but it is something that may or may not be a consequence of his punishment. It’s entirely up to the bar, and the question is a subjective one, about whether the bar considers Jimmy a liability to their organization. This is where we hope some revelations about Chuck’s ailments and their family dynamics can redeem Jimmy’s reputation among his peers. Again, the punishment has already been issued, this is merely a “hearing” among lawyers, but it is not a trial or a legal process at all.

The issue is whether Jimmy can avoid losing his license and stick it to his brother in the process. Chuck is under no investigation or prosecution. But he does have the esteem and respect of the bar association, and Jimmy will (possibly) find a way to take that from him. The key elements of that process might take place in the courtroom, but it won’t be a legal process.

Sort of like a hypothetical politician’s aide being prosecuted for some reason or another. The trial might reveal that the politician himself was involved in a sex scandal. That doesn’t meant the aide will escape justice or that the politician will see legal consequences. But nevertheless, in that scenario, the trial of a low-level person can end up ruining the politician’s career.

Jimmy has already been punished. The question is whether (or how) he is going to take Chuck down with him, and how he is going to maintain his license. He will keep his license, however, because we know he practices law in Albuquerque in Breaking Bad. And he may have changed his name, but he didn’t change his face.

True dat, but he’d be more likeable if he wasn’t such a pompous hypochondriac know it all. So there’s that.

Damn! That is one sick nasty dank analysis my friend. That’s a compliment, btw.

I didn’t say what you said I said. I said “saving his bacon” as in: keeping his license and prevailing in an adversarial hearing around his behavior. It can’t be “already done” if this is happening and we are talking about it. If there is no bacon to save it doesn’t make for a lot of drama. I’m referring to the adversarial process, not another legal process that is either going on, or over, or continued.

I can’t see any defense to his behavior. And I can’t see revelations about Chuck meaning anything, unless he’s a pedophile or something not revealed yet. His peers know him already. What kind of plot is it where jimmy is just trying to tell the world about what they already know. He’s eccentric. I can’t see the plot revolving around trying to damage Chuck’s reputation with the bar, since this has not been at issue in the show before. And then how would it be relevant to his keeping his license? Are people here lawyers and think this is sound? I’m not, but I can’t see it.

Yet that seems to be where the plot is going, believable or not.

Hopefully it will instead be something very clever that we’re not thinking of, but I’m not hopeful.

I guess that’s why he’s Gilligan and we’re just on the island.

The only reason the bar association would take Jimmy’s license to practice law away would be if they believed that his confession to altering documents was genuine, or if they thought he was guilty of serious felonies.

Jimmy plans to show that his confession was coerced and he only gave it in order to calm down his crazy brother, not knowing it was going on the record. In that light, and having gone through everything else that he has in order to try to help Chuck, his actions in breaking in and destroying property are an understandable family matter that does not rise to the level of professional misconduct that would justify disbarment and taking away his livelihood in the very noble practice of Elder Law.

Yes, and we know it because we have a god’s eye view of what happened. But none of the people at the hearing will be able to watch the episode where he doctored documents, so they’ll have to rely on evidence. And there is no physical evidence, just Chuck’s word - which Jimmy will impeach by showing that Chuck is dangerously disconnected from reality. If your only witness has to wear a tin foil suit to attend the hearing, and the alternative theory is “Mr Tinfoil hat transposed two numbers”, it’s not hard to see who most people will believe. There is Jimmy’s confession, but he’s just going to say that he told Chuck what Chuck wanted to hear to help him get better, and that’s really believable when Chuck is living in a powerless fire trap of a house and has been ruled incompetent to handle his own medical affairs in the past year.

The bar only knows Chuck as an ‘eccentric’, but as we’ve seen Chuck is a man with a severe mental disorder that causes severe delusions to the point that he cannot function in the modern world, and who’s condition has put his life at risk multiple times.

Well OK, this is the best scenario yet. But I don’t see that chuck has been portrayed as the things you are saying. What is his biggest gaffe yet? i can’t see his functioning as being the game changer at this point, after 2 1/2 seasons of this. Wouldn’t that be just deadly dull TV? And if our credibility were impeached by putting our own lives in danger we’d mostly all be quite impeachable. It’s other peoples safety I see as important. Chuck has been eccentric but not a danger to the public that I have seen. So this whole thing if it’s happening is kind of an anticlimax.

I see Better Call Saul as essentially the same morality play as Breaking Bad. BB told an old, old story, the same story you see in Shakespeare: a basically good guy who decides to do something bad that’s going to fix all his problems, and once that’s done he’s going to go back to being a good person. Of course, it never works out that way.

BCS is Jimmy’s moral arc. Despite his loose approach to legal ethics he’s basically a good person at the start: he cares about Chuck, he cares about Kim, and he wants to win for his clients. Unfortunately, his decisions are based on achieving short term goals which seem “right” to him, but take him irrevocably closer to the dark side. He forged the Mesa Verde papers to right a perceived wrong done to Kim, and he figured Chuck would bounce back from it and be okay. Instead it inexorably placed him on an path toward a life-changing confrontation with Chuck.

Jimmy has a choice he cannot avoid: let his law career be destroyed, or destroy Chuck. He’ll choose the latter, and provoke a meltdown before the bar association board. Chuck will start screaming that JIMMY IS NOT A REAL LAWYER while wailing about all the electricity in the room and wrapping himself in a space blanket before collapsing. It’ll be like Captain Queeg in The Caine Mutiny, but worse. The tragic decision to destroy his brother will be moment that Jimmy becomes Saul, even if he doesn’t start calling himself that for a while.

If you don’t see how a anyone might think ‘this guy can’t function in the real world’ and ‘this guy is not mentally competent’ when he cant operate around cell phones and has to wear a tinfoil suit, his house is a fire hazard of newspapers and oil lamps, he ripped the wiring out of his house, and he got a head injury, refused treatment, and got declared incompetent so someone else could consent to treatment, there’s really not anything I can recount from the show to change your mind.

After 2 1/2 seasons he’s just going to say “My bro is a weirdo”? Could be, but I see the arc of the show leading up to this “reveal” being very weak workaday sauce. The main drama being “I lied on the tape to protect my brother cause, did you hear, he’s sooo weird” No Spoilers Please!!

People go through periods where they can’t function all the time in the real world. They are entitled to wear tinfoil if they want. Nobody cares unless you are a danger to someone. Chuck has been living like this for awhile and having employees come in etc. and participating in firm business.

We’ll have to see. I am expecting more.

No one is talking about removing him from society. This is about his law license. A bar association should, and does, have higher standards.

No. Not what I said, and not what I’ve said in multiple previous posts on the subject.

They wouldn’t be doing it if he wasn’t a partner in the firm. His reputation and a sizeable share of the company is the only protection Chuck has from being just another delusional homeless person.

While a commercial’s running…

• I’m guessing the changing of address numbers that Chuck originated, to lie about his house not having power, will come back to bite him in the ass.

• It’s not the same actor, but are we supposed to think that the large man who bumped into Chuck on the stairs is a younger (thinner) Huell?

So you think that jimmy is going to turn the tables and try to get chucks license revoked? The hearing is not about his license.At least yet, and I’m not sure how that could be effected.

I don’t get what you mean here. He is where he is from his own talents like everyone else. They are trying to do back at him because he’s chuck, and all that has meant lately. It’s a tautology no?

“Do you have to fit him in a tight spot?” HAHAHAHAHA!

It was pretty much what we thought.

The battery trick was clever.