Better Call Saul: Season IV

There’s our next prequel! (highlighting mine)

(I agreed with your entire post, by the way. Good point about Kim being hardest to read.)

They’ve stretched wishful thinking, not reality, unless you think the Department of Homeland security is wrong when it states that the average police response time to an active shooter incident in the US is 18 minutes, or the Albequerque police department is wrong when their average time to have an officer show up after an urgent 911 call is completed 12 minutes. And you’ve stretched the definition of ‘prolonged’ pretty far too, since the firefight in the show from the first shot fired to the cut after the twins walk out with the bag with the ‘stolen’ drugs lasted a whopping 4 minutes and 2 seconds.

The twins were clearly about to walk back to the car, carrying Nacho if need be, and that wasn’t going to take longer than the firefight, so after that they still have ten minutes to clear the area (2.5 times the length of the firefight) before the first cops show up if we assume the cops manage to hit the average US response time. It’s pretty clear that this is supposed to be an area with below average response time in context, but you don’t even need that for them to clear the area. Claiming that the show strains credibility because the cops did not respond to a firefight in a bad part of town (or maybe not even in town) in less than a quarter of the average time for police to respond in the real world is just silly.

Did New Mexico police keep heavily armed quick reaction forces on standby in 2003?
Because unless they did, no way any LEA are arriving until several 10’s of minutes later.

Yes, great visual metaphor! Another salute to the artistry of the show.

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There’s our next prequel! (highlighting mine)

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Yes, there you go! I would be interested in Nacho’s story. Then Kim’s … and even Gus’ …it could go on forever. And then the reruns and timelines could really mess up our heads …

My poor friend came late to BCS, loves it, and is trying to watch Season 1 and 4 at the same time … is entirely messed up.

I would have said there was no wrong way to watch BCS… but I stand corrected.

I really hate the Super Salamanca Bros.

Firstly, I don’t like this new trend of Terminator-like characters in fiction.
I can buy that someone is crazy badass (like Mike). Or survives a situation against all odds. Or is effectively fearless or psychotic. What grinds my gears is characters acting as though they *know *they can’t be trivially shot in the back by some random mook. Because they’re a “boss” character. I don’t like John Wick, Equilizer etc for this same reason.

Secondly, in this episode, they moved like ballerinas. It was pretty jarring watching them stab the guy with some kind of flourish and then slowly lowering the dual pistols.
I understand that these characters are supposed to be other-worldly and unnerving, but it’s not a good match to pair that with “Hollywood badass” cliches. Every shot they’re in looks like fiction to me, not something that could actually go down in the real world (OTOH Nacho was great).

Is it possible that the judge’s interaction with Kim, assuring her that Criminal Law is boring & that it really is best for her to stay somewhere she can earn loads of money… is all foreshadowing Kim getting that Case Of A Lifetime? What if he assigns it to her, even if completely accidentally?

Does she even have a criminal law background? I get that lawyers are drafted from time to time to provide defense work but would they do that to a corporate lawyer?

It seems to me that assigning a reluctant lawyer with no recent criminal defense experience wouldn’t be in the best interest of the defendant in any case.

n/m

On the list of “things not in the absolute best interests of an accused, which happen anyway”, this won’t even make them top 20.

The thing that I didn’t like about the latest episode was Mike calling out the faker in the group session. It just seemed tacked on to show Mike’s super reasoning powers which later played out even better with Gus. But we already knew that about Mike. I get that he’s fed up with the group session thing and that it does more harm than good but they could have shown that in a couple of minutes and used the extra time for something more interesting. Also, there is no way someone else wouldn’t have caught that the guys story changed so dramatically.

The experience that Mike had in Group Therapy is not particularly unusual. There is an argument often made that it doesn’t matter whether the stories are true. It’s the telling of the stories that is important, even if those stories are entirely fictional. Stories evolve, both in fiction and in reality. I’ll give you a different fictional example, the last episode of the TV show MASH. Hawkeye tells and retells a story. Each time, the story evolves & gets closer and closer to the truth. He’s gone through a trauma that he’s not ready to discuss, so he changes the facts to something that he can deal with.

In other words, to a trained counselor, the stories might be known to be false, but the telling of the stories might show progress or lack thereof.

When Mike bluntly confronted the man with the cold facts - facts of which he lives in denial - he may have caused real trouble.

In other news, I hope that at some point this season we are able to visit with the Kettlemans. Here, again, is a situation in which a delusional person is forced to face cold realities.

Kim is lost as her vision of a quiet practice supporting a small client goes up in smoke.
She wants someone to give her direction. The judge threatened to do it, she’s saying “go ahead.”

I didn’t see Mike as “turning on a loved one.” It was nothing against Stacey, he just hates the thought of his son’s memory fading. He is finally feeling his grief, which is a healthy sign but a seriously painful process. I think he strongly preferred being in shock and anger.

I predict he will turn out to be wrong about liar guy. Otherwise, what’s the point of the diversion? It will serve to show that allowing himself emotions at this point in his life would tear out the mountainside along with the dam.

I totally see where you’re coming from. I think I would hate them also if they had been introduced in BCS. They fit better into the slightly-heightened-reality of Breaking Bad (I mean, are they better at killing than Walt is at chemistry?), where of course they were eventually taken down by Hank, not a particularly notable badass.

BCS is a bit lower key than BB, so they stick out a bit more, but as far as how I feel about them, well, I guess they’re kind of grandfathered in.

Lunch was great

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The recent movie The Tale uses this idea a lot. It’s a very good, and novel, movie, although with many parts that are uncomfortable to watch.

Did you ever see the picnic webisode where the Kettleman family comes to visit dad by the side of the road?

In case you haven’t seen it…

No Picnic - YouTube