Better Call Saul: Season IV

Oh, and a nice touch that I just noticed - if you click on the “DONATE” button for Huell’s legal defense fund it takes you to the actual website for the Food Bank of Northwest Louisiana.

NINJA’D!

The address to send letters to the judge is an actual Bernalillo County government office, including district court administration.

That did seem like a weak point to me: Bob Odenkirk’s Cajun accent really wasn’t very good. (He’s a multi-talented guy, but not really an accents expert.)

But I guess in the world of the show, it was meant to be quite convincing, and nothing at all like Jimmy’s actual voice–so that it was believable that the prosecutor didn’t recognize him.

His accent isn’t really supposed to great - he’s pulling a cheap scam, after all. It just has to be good enough to fool an overworked DA in Albuquerque.

“I got crawdads in mah pants!”

Yeah, but she’s an overworked ADA who knows perfectly well that Jimmy is vitally interested in the case. And that he has a reputation as a con man/low-life. And presumably, she would prefer not to be humiliated by falling for a scam.

But … in the world of the show, as I said, we can assume the accent to be completely convincing, and the voice to sound nothing like Jimmy.

I think the ADA knows she is being scammed. She spent as much resource as she could spare trying to poke holes in the scam; by the time she was talking to Jimmy as the pastor she is realizing that the scam covered the bases well enough that she was risking getting in trouble with the DA and the judge if she spent any more time on investigating it. Add to that the fact that Kim will continue to burn the ADA’s resources with motions and continuances and it is clear it’s time to move on to more easily winnable cases.

i don’t think the Jimmy/Kim relationship is general knowledge at the courthouse. If the ADA knew that Jimmy was Kim’s SO I don’t think she would have called him a scumbag while talking to Kim. That would seem like a pretty unprofessional ad hominem attack.

I agree, the prosecutor doesn’t know Kim and Jimmy are an item. Which had me worried when he was poking his nose around the courthouse during the last scene there when the DA gave in.

And I don’t think the prosecutor knows she’s being conned. She probably subconciously knows something’s weird, but, it’s also not worth her time. While she is an older DA and handling felonies, the actual crime still seemed ticky-tack enough that’s probably in that realm of things where the easiest way to get what the defense wants is just convince the DA it’s not worth their time. Works in misdemeanorland at least.

actually in the beginning if you bought a cellphone you got the area code of where the phone was created/turned on or in some cases which ever area code in 50 miles had room for new numbers
which led to the deal like my aunts phone where even tho it they in the same house calling from landline to her cellphone was considered long distance because the cell had an l.a. area code because thats where T-Mobile ships their purchased online phones from …its why we paid extra for unlimited long distance when it was first offered by verizon

In the beginning, all area codes had room for new numbers. It was the prefix/exchange (the middle three digits) which sometimes corresponded to a nearby town. My wife’s cell phone had an exchange corresponding a location that was a toll call from my office on the west side of town but a local call from our home on the southwest side of town.

When Pastor Jimmy was talking to the ADA, I thought for sure that he blew it when he mentioned the assault on the police officer. (The old “he mentioned a detail that she never brought up” trope.) But I quickly realized that if the folks back home knew Huell was in legal trouble, then of course they would know why.

Next week’s preview spoiler?

Only two more episodes left this season!

Thank you for putting the preview discussion in a spoiler box. There actually aren’t previews the way I watch it (on iTunes), but if there were I wouldn’t watch them.

I know in 2004 I got a prepaid cell phone from Virgin Mobile that allowed me to pick any area code I wanted. This is, what, 2003?

It sounded fine to me, but I’m a Yankee who’s never been to rural Louisiana (other than driving through it on the raised freeway). I expect this is similar to all the people who thought Marge Gunderson’s accent in the movie “Fargo” was spot-on, when people who actually live in Minnesota know it was terrible (although there were some other characters in the movie who sounded right). As long as the D.A. is not from that region, there’s no real concern here IMO.

I think this too. But please, no 10 pages on whether the ADA knows, thinks she knows or “know” knows. :slight_smile:

I am modifying my “knows” to “suspects”. 10 pages to follow :D.

When Jimmy started riffing as the pastor, one of the film students pointed to the whiteboard where it said, “Keep it simple.” Jimmy waved him off and carried on. I thought for sure that was foreshadowing Jimmy blowing it.

I don’t think so; if she has figured out there’s a scam, the scam is a bigger crime than the sandwich swinging and would be worth investigating on its own. There would be multiple felonies in state, plus federal charges from crossing state lines, and the DA and especially judge would love to bring the hammer down on someone subverting the justice system. I think the ADA just finds the whole thing weird, she thinks something is off but it’s one of those minor mysteries that you never really solve, she doesn’t think that that Kim actually engineered people writing in letters. (This presumes that we don’t hear more about her next episode and that she did drop the investigation. Obviously if she keeps digging into it as the season goes on, that would paint a different picture).

As far as ‘knows’ goes, I’ve braced myself and used the word a few times without the gnostics restarting that debate, so I think we’re finally safe from that weird thing.

I was marveling at the four lawyers Kim brought to the meeting. As the ADA said, they were in the $200-300 per hour range, and Jimmy’s bus trip also added to the expense. So how much, overall, do you think they spent on the deal? $10,000? $20,000?

This whole episode demonstrates that Kim is really, really good at engineering scams. Much better than Jimmy - her attention to detail is much better so she leaves fewer untied loose ends. This could head in an interesting direction.

It’s with a heavy heart I have to say parts of this season really just seem…kinda boring to me. I’m probably one of the biggest Breaking Bad fans out there, and genuinely consider the previous seasons of BCS to be some of the best television I’ve seen, but I honestly think we’ve entered a part of the Saul and associate characters arcs…that frankly just aren’t that interesting? I had hoped things would pick up when they did a time jump, and to a degree they have, but the first like 4 episodes of this season could’ve been condensed into 1 episode and we’d have lost nothing.

Right now the storyline I’m probably the most interested in is Nacho’s and it’s being given the least attention by far. I think until this episode the Kim and Jimmy line has been frankly pretty boring. I do think the scheme to get Huell off was pretty good and it largely worked for me. I think Jimmy’s track into stealing figurines and selling burner phones was kind of meh.

I don’t really have an issue with the Huell scheme working, I’ve had some exposure to the criminal justice system. A case like Huell’s is the kind of case a prosecutor likes to dispose in about 30 minutes of work, the prosecutor had overcharged anyway, likely because of a personal dislike for Jimmy, and a real life prosecutor would’ve been amenable to at least some significantly watered down sentence/charge. Since it’s a case a prosecutor cannot justify spending a ton of time or money on, in real life the moment a room full of high priced lawyers showed up for a minor offense, the prosecutor almost certainly would’ve found a way out and fast–these are public servants who have massive case loads. There’s literally no fiscal or responsible way to justify a big effort on that case. Yes, if the prosecutor was aware they were being scammed they’d probably dig deep to prove it and get Kim disbarred/arrested, but since the prosecutor would want out of that case anyway it’s not likely they’d do any kind of “due diligence” investigating into something that’s not technically legally part of the case.

The stuff from the church and the fake character references would be a form of crime for Kim and Jimmy, but for the prosecutor’s case against Huell they just represent PR nightmare which is how they’d likely address it (i.e. wanting to make it go away.)

The stuff about the super lab plays into I guess the characterization of Gus and Mike as being super detail-oriented and cautious, but I frankly find it a little silly. The reality is America is a huge country, and it’s not a police state. The level of security is hilarious compared to the actual threat. We don’t have state police running around checking every building for meth labs, there’s probably far more meth labs that have just been thrown together in the U.S. and never discovered than have ever been found. The level of security and control they’re exerting over the crew is frankly overblown, and to be honest the whole scheme is questionable. A much lower risk thing would’ve been to buy a commercial/industrial property that had suitable underground facilities already.

At this point I believe Gus is much more worried about the cartel finding out about the meth lab than the police.