Well, at least we aren’t being jerks or trying to stifle the conversation. By all means, start a “BCS/talk to me in one-liners” thread.
Poor Lyle. That twerp is gonna walk in on something and get himself got.
I don’t agree with part of this- Jimmy seems to have a very clear moral compass, it’s just not lined up with everyone else’s. He doesn’t hurt vulnerable people with his scams; he never ripped off his elder law clients even though it would be easy, he stole the Hummel from a guy who was going to throw it out, but he is perfectly willing to hurt ‘predators’ like the stealing-watch guy, tequila guy, and so on. The mallwalking scheme seems like an exception, but it was in what he saw as the best interest of the retirees, and when he saw that he had hurt Irene he gave up his ability to do Elder law to fix her. He likes punching back or helping little guys punch back against big bullies with power, whether it’s legit authority like the police or just rich guys like tequila dude.
That’s why Kim’s condescending ‘use our powers for good’ stuck him so badly - he really does try to use his powers for good as he sees it, and as much as she loves him she doesn’t see that. The scam she pulled was to benefit a big bank, not a little guy, so it doesn’t register as a force for good to him the way it does for her. It’s not just that she sees things differently, she doesn’t see or acknowledge his moral compass, and with all of his other issues and repressed grief it’s easy for him to twist that to her seeing him as only ‘Slippin’ Jimmy, the kind of lawyer guilty people hire’ by the end of the episode.
My prediction: Gus doesn’t hate Nacho now - when it looked like Hector was dead, he was clearly furious with Nacho, and wanted to torture him like the coati while using him to hurt Salamanca operations, but since Nacho actually ended up helping torture Hector, Gus is now indifferent to him. Doesn’t mean Gus is has any hesitation about hurting him, just that Gus doesn’t have hurting him as a goal. Mike will have to kill Werner and will feel guilty about it. Gus will use Nacho to keep tabs on Lalo as they go back and forth, and with Mike’s prompting eventually has Nacho do some sort of big sabotage and escape to Canada, and Jimmy/Saul is involved in some way. Mike gets to feel good about saving Nacho, Nacho gets to escape, Gus furthers his plans against the cartel, and Saul has a reason to worry about Lalo sending people for him in BB.
My take was that Kim’s comment was a reference back to their conversation about what scams they should do. She was hesitant to scam unless it was for “good” and that they’d know when the right one came along.
The comment about “We can start with that” seemed like she was saying that pulling some kind of a scam to help get him re-instated would qualify as “good” and they could start their scamming there.
Yes they have scammed together repeatedly before, but she was putting the brakes on his idea to turn it into a more routine thing. He wanted to know where they would go from the Huell scam and now she’s saying let’s start with getting you re-instated.
Maybe she wants to stay together and is offering this not only as an olive branch and to help with his immediate needs, but also saying she’s on board ramping up their scamming activity?
That doesn’t describe anybody in this thread as best I can tell, so “we” is… everybody?
For one thing, the nice lady at the permits office is unlikely to simply drop the milk-soaked plans in the office trash can. She’d realize that she’d need to take them away from the office and dispose of them where no one would question why such a precious document is being discarded.
She might even take them home. It’s the most discreet thing to do–no awkward chances of someone who knows her seeing her dumping something in a dumpster behind a strip mall or such. That might lead to questions.
So maybe she takes them home, intending to put them out with her trash on the next pick-up day…but maybe she forgets to do that. And they’re still there, to be compared with the not-actually-identical set she stamped that night for the poor distressed new mother.
As for Werner: yes, it seems quite likely that Mike will end up killing him on his presumed return to the warehouse and/or lab. I’ve stated my belief that one or more of the Germans will end up embedded in the concrete of the lab (because that could attract Breaking Bad’s “Fly.”) Could be Kai, could be Werner, could be both.
I would defend the padlocks on the basis of the surveillance being the most important “lock”. The padlocks are just to make it, as someone pointed out, clear as to where only “authorized personnel” may go.
Cosigned.
I just rewatched the scene it kinda looks like that’s exactly what she did - the clerk holds the milk-stained plans, walks around the counter with them, we get a close-up of Kim retrieving the alternate plans from her case, and then we next see the clerk - not holding the plans - cleaning her hands. I don’t see a wastebasket anywhere, admittedly, but the soiled plans do seem to abruptly vanish.
I’m a little curious if the official stamp has a date on it, or must be signed by the clerk with the date. She might be okay with back-dating the new plans to match the old ones, but this sure seems like a lot of trouble to go to with high risk, just so Kim’s client can get a little more office space.
And, I guess, so Kim can get aroused by the danger of it.
How did what the truck driver did mask the sound of the explosion?
I think this misses that Jimmy blew up at her to the point that he’s moving his stuff out of her house. I didn’t interpret ‘we can start with that’ as her trying to decide what scams they do, it’s her saying ‘this is the thing we can start doing to save the relationship’. Like ‘lets not try to fix the whole giant ball of hurt that happened on the roof, lets try to reconnect one step at a time, and the first will be getting you reinstated’.
I, too, would like to know.
Well, realistically there would probably be multiple copies of the plans stored in multiple locations (like one for the official file, one for the application record, one for the inspector to carry). You can ‘assume’ this takes place before the multiple copies were created. Also Mesa Verde needs to be told that they’re using the new plans, since ‘currently’ they’d have their contractors buying materials and doing estimates based on the original approved plans. Kevin probably won’t look too much into what Kim did since he thinks she’s magic, and Paige is pretty unlikely to make an hours long road trip to investigate a good thing, but it is not impossible for someone at the bank to say ‘I’m so glad we refiled this!’ and someone else to say ‘what do you mean refiled?’ or for an interested local who objected to the larger plan and thought he had won the zoning fight for the smaller plan to wonder how this got back door approved. (People who go to county planning meetings can get… intense). None of it is especially likely, but this is definitely not a neatly closed book the way that squat cobbler (which Kim angrily objected to even hearing about) was.
I predict that the reinstatement appeal will be the best collaboration between Jimmy and Kim yet and that somehow it will end them. Maybe the only way for him to get his license back is to throw her under the bus.
Have you ever heard an empty tipper go over a big bump? It makes a hell of a racket. The lift gate will swing back and crash down, the hinges and hitches bang, etc. There was a big grate or something on the road, and the guy motored at it at high speed, and they set the blast off just as the truck hit it. You can even feel the vibration in the ground if a rig like that bounces.
Even if the guy hadn’t timed it right, people hearing the sound of the truck coming through at high speed then a bang/vibration would be much more likely to shrug it off than if the quiet desert afternoon was suddenly punctuated by a deep boom/vibration.
As for Werner… I don’t think Mike will kill him. My memory of breaking bad is a little hazy, but did we ever see Mike kill an innocent in cold blood? I remember he killed an assassin who came to kill him, and he’s killed other bad guys, but I think it would be a stretch for him to hunt down Werner and kill him - especially since he sees so much of himself there.
Rather, my guess is that we either see Mike hunt the guy down and drag him back and tell everyone to forget it happened to keep him from Gus, or Mike refuses to kill him and Gus has his guys do it. Or, Mike will hide the fact that the guy ran, and this will have terrible consequences and result in Gus wiping out the whole crew because he doesn’t know who can be trusted. Something like that.
If Mike catches him at the airport and drags him back, it will be a character building moment for him. It will show us that deep down he’s still a better man than the thugs he is now working for. Or, if Mike does kill him on orders it will tell us that Mike is capable of anything and is either a monster inside, or someone so cold and indifferent that it’s all just about orders and professionalism with no morality at play at all.
I think the only way Mike kills him is if his hands are tied, or Gus promises that if Mike doesn’t do it Gus will have him AND his wife killed. Something like that. Basically I think Mike has to be put into a no-win situation before he’d pull the trigger on the guy.
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Sam, I think you are forgetting that Mike was about to kill Walt in cold blood (after feeding him lies about a leak) on Gus’s orders, when Jesse threw a wrench in the works by killing Gale.
Yes.
He made a very, very loud bang by driving his empty truck over a pothole
Mike was a dirty Cop dude, so being a “good man” is already out.
By the way has Mrs Ehrmantraut been seen or mentioned before on BB/BCS?
The truck didn’t mask the sound so much as give anybody who might have heard something to blame it on.
I interpreted Kim’s “We can start with that” comment to be about whether Jimmy actually wants to be a lawyer or not. To paraphrase how I interpreted their conversation:
Kim: Do you even want to be a lawyer? If you did, you would have mentioned Chuck at the hearing. Since you didn’t do that, it’s only reasonable to conclude that you don’t want to be a lawyer anymore, and are committing suicide-by-hearing to force yourself to stop being a lawyer.
Jimmy: I do want to be lawyer.
Kim: Okay, we can start with that. (Meaning: Stop self-sabotaging, and let’s figure out what our options are to get you reinstated.)
I see them trying to get Jimmy reinstated instead of addressing the problems in their relationship, not as a way to work on their relationship. It’s an emergency, break glass, but before we do Kim just wanted to be sure it was an emergency Jimmy wanted to actually fix.