The charitable explanation is that it was a symbolic gesture. Equally likely is that neither Jeff nor Jordan were smart enough to realize that he didn’t need purposely shank it in order to give Jordan HoH for the week.
Well, it was the simplest way for those involved to understand. And it worked just fine.
So, Lydia didn’t know about Natalie’s flirtations with Jesse? How could she not?
Wow, I (and I’m sure all the recappers) sure do feel stupid seeing as how Natalie’s splish splash lie actually happened. Sorry for all the hate Michele, but your interpersonal skills really do suck donkey balls.
Anyone curious about how the HoH ended…Jeff won!
Regarding Michele’s memory about conversations, I don’t think there’s any need for a head injury or mis-scored IQ test for that. Some people, in my experience, have just lacked the confidence of their convictions.
I had an employee once that I knew to be honest to a fault, and yet when someone accused her of lying about something, she couldn’t recall exactly what she said. Before long, after more questioning, she even admitted the possibility that she lied. (Found out later that she hadn’t.) But she just wasn’t a confident person, and I think that could be Michele’s problem too. I think she’s very smart. But intelligence and memory aren’t always related (except trivially, as in remembering enough vocabulary to do analogies, etc.)
Michele sure didn’t seem to suffer from any memory issues during last night’s POV competition. Not judging her, just an observation.
Chima apologizes for terrorist comment:
Yeah, I know, and you’re right. But I’m talking about a really specialized thing: recalling conversations you’ve had with people. Sometimes, it’s because you don’t pay enough attention. Sometimes, as I said, it’s a confidence issue when the other person insists that he said X when you recall Y. I’ve seen it first hand many times, during employee resolution meetings and such. They remember the conversation as X, but after they’ve been questioned, and the more they’re questioned, like, “Are you SURE he didn’t say X?” they sometimes start going, “Well, I guess he COULD have.” I’ve often seen it go all the way to believing he said X. And there were two realities, I guess: the one that happened, and the one he made up. She eventually began living in the latter reality.
I’m not sure how far we can go in this forum, so I’ll just say screw her. She’s the Omarosa of BB.
And sometimes one is preconditioned to this situation. My mother, much as I love her, is someone who can turn a conversation that you are absolutely certain that you were there for into something that doesn’t bear any relation to reality, given just a couple of hours for her unconscious to work on it. You really end up kind of shellshocked as far as conversational memory goes.
There’s also the context that the conversation Natalie made up really actually happened just like Natalie’s lie, so everyone (me) who ragged on Michele for defending a lie are eating crow. My bad, Michele.
But I still think mild brain damage would explain a lot of her awkward mannerisms and inappropriate reactions during conversations. Not that she’s stupid, or needs a drool cup or has to wear a helmet or anything; just a little scrambled.
On an unrelated note, she’s become smokin’ hot in recent days, IMO. The roll of fat around her stomach from early in the season is totally gone. I never really thought she was all that until I saw her trying on / taking off her tie dye shirt on BBAD last night. Couple that with her being a spitfire in bed who’ll pretty much try anything, and, …, oh my.
Or even just a brain imbalance. Not necessarily damage per se, but just something that isn’t firing right and maybe needs some treatment.
So we’re down to the Final 6, with Jesse and Lydiot in the jury house so far. Who do you think will make the Final 2, and who do you think will win? Jeff and Jordan have to be odds on favorites now, but certainly not a sure thing.
If they stop and think about it for a minute, Russell or Michele would be a mortal lock for F2 because whoever went up against them would win in a landslide. This is why Russell really wants to go to final two with Michele; it would be a toss-up between them, and neither of them stands a chance against anyone else.
I’m not convinced any of them (except maybe Natalie) are smart enough to figure this out, though.
But Michelle against Russell wins America’s vote.
This thread has been inactive for over 3 days! That’s inexcusable, people! I’ve been reading the recappers so I know what happens tonight:
Russell gets back-doored at the Veto meeting
I hope CBS/BB shows the aftermath. Things are getting kookier than ever.
Jordan summed up all the recappers’ feelings perfectly when she said “I don’t like this new Jeff. I like the old Jeff better.”
He was kind of a douchenozzle to Jordan for three or four days there. He was better yesterday, though. The irony is his point in the beginning of the game about people are who they really are when the chips are down. Seems in BB it’s the people in power who turn into assholes.
Regarding the next HOH challenge:
If Russell goes, am I correct that we would see a face-off of challenge powerhouses Michelle, Kevin, Natalie, and Jordan? I haven’t been deeply following the action this year, but that seems about as low in challenge talent as you can get.
Yes, that would be correct, and FTR, I don’t think that info needed to be put in spoiler boxes.
Jeff and Jordan are hoping for an endurance competition. Based on the results of the spinning swing thing, Jordan and Michele would easily demolish Kevin and Natalie without breaking a sweat. Jeff has said, “If it’s an endurance competition and Russell’s not here, I’d pop a boner.”
Part of the reason he backdoored Russell is because he’s worried about an endurance comp and figured Russell would win it easily and then put J&J on the block. If it’s not endurance, in a mental/Q&A competition all of the J&J eggs are in squarely in the Michele basket to beat Kevin and Natalie.
In an objective view of the competitions all season, Michele is the third best competitor out of all 13 HGs, behind Jeff (1) and Russell (2). Natalie is dead last, and Kevin would be behind Jordan.
That’s another reason J&J wanted to backdoor Russell. Michele would beat Jordan in just about anything, and Russell would be a pick’em against Jeff in just about anything. They’re thinking that a F4 with Kevin and Natalie would be much more winnable, since Jeff would easily beat Kevin and Jordan would easily beat Natalie.
Most of those conversations end with them wanting to still bring Michele to F4 anyway, though.
I hope they show some of Alex Forrest (aka Glenn Close aka Lydia) and Dan Gallagher (aka Michael Douglas aka Jesse). Lets hope there are not pet bunnies at the jury house or PETA might start a protest.
Isn’t this the time of year when the jury house gets more interesting than the BB house?
Love this exchange from Fatal Attraction.
Jesse: You’re so sad. You know that, Alex? Lonely and very sad.
Lydia: Don’t you ever pity me, you smug bastard.
Jesse: I’ll pity you… I’ll pity you. I’ll pity you because you’re sick.
Lyida: Why? Because I won’t allow you treat me like some slut you can just bang a couple of times and throw in the garbage?