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Not that Americans are the most attuned to world events, but that even the most torpidly oblivious of the citizenry are beginning to grasp what we America-hating dissenters said friom the git-go, and that the rhetoric of the right is becoming ever more divorced from the political realities.
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Ah, I see. Now American’s are, as a whole, smart?
Sorry, I’m not going to argue the point. I’ve already stated elsewhere that I have major issues with the administration.
What I’m curious about, and it’s not a direct challenge to you, are the years of posts proclaiming Americans as idiots for electing Republicans and Bush, but now that polls show a lack of support for Bush, American sentiment is cited as proof that Republicans and Bush are outright wrong.
Would my claim that Americans are dimwits based on polls make that claim any less credible?
Polls shift, always. When conservatives on this board cited high poll numbers for the GOP, we were told it was because Americans were sluggish, uneducated, ignorant dullards. Now that the numbers have shifted, Americans are enlightened, intelligent and righteous.
What a major shift the country made in 2 years.
As far as the Iraq war goes? I’m giving it more than a few years. I remember reading in Newsweek the administration said it could be a 20 year commitment. That was shortly after the war started. It took over 50 years to liberate East Berlin. I’m not expecting Iraq to follow any timeline to get it’s shit together. We aren’t fighting a war on a PlayStation console. “War is Hell” isn’t just a cute phrase.
If it were up to me, I’d bring every soldier home tomorrow. Let them foment the civil war that isn’t happening yet. Yet. Saddam, in my view, was the same as Tito.
Tito supressed civil war through brutal rule. Saddam did the same. No civil war, but was it really what was right?
Get rid of Tito, and what did we see? Milosevic. We made a stand and what did we get? Civil war in the former Yugoslav states. But we see it now as right to enter into a civil war.
Iraq may revert to civil war. It would be terrible and many innocents will die. But it wouldn’t be caused by the US. It’s something that has been fermenting for decades. The US will try to avoid it, but if it is to be, it will happen. Sometimes people have to figure it out for themselves,
In the mid 1860’s there were a lot of people that thought slavery was right and Northerner’s just didn’t “get it”. Some can’t abide by state-sponsored mass executions.
If the Shiites and Sunnis insist on killing each other through cowardly acts, well nobody can stop it. They’ll do it as long as they can. We never heard of it 4 years ago because it was never reported.
But it’s been happening for centuries. The small faction on each side have been been killing each other since they decided which Imam they’d follow.
The war in Iraq has nothing to do with the religion. It’s to try to get a base of a democracy planted to bring stability to the area. If there can be a beginning of a government that is based on equality, it’s worlds ahead of what was the reality for the last 30 years.
Get a stable government in Baghdad, and watch the money flow in. America, and most other countries, love a good trading partner. Look at Japan. Or Germany.
Those countries seem to be doing pretty well.
