Billy Meier’s career as a contactee began in 1942, when he was still only a five year old little boy. Back then, his first extraterrestrial contact person and teacher was none other than Semjase’s grandfather - a Plejaren by birth named Sfath. He was a venerable and wise man who, like every other mortal, eventually had to depart from this life. After Sfath’s death, an amiable woman known as Asket, who came from the twin universe called the DAL Universe, continued the contacts without interruption. This is a parallel universe to our DERN Universe and originated at the same time as ours.
Sfath Sfath
Eduard, listen very closely to what I have to say to you. 1. Eduard, höre sehr genau zu, was ich dir zu sagen habe:
It is not for no purpose, rather for certain reasons that the series of our meetings has come about. 2. Nicht umsonst, sondern aus bestimmten Gründen haben sich die Aneinanderreihung unserer Begeg-nungen ergeben.
The cause for the argumentation leads back to determinations which lie very far back in the past, and according to which, during the time of your present life, you are fitted into a certain task determined by yourself - as was the case repeatedly in your spiritual line of reincarnations in former lives and in other personalities and bodies - in order to fulfil the mission of a proclaimer and to bring, to the whole of humanity, peace, true love, freedom and unity as well as open, unencrypted knowledge of the spiritual matters and that which pertains to creational laws as well as wisdom.
I don’t have to wiggle out of something that I am not guilty of so why impose your own guilt trip upon me knowing full well that my words were not meant to be an insult as I haven’t directly called anyone an idiot.
Get it from the horses mouth by reading what they’ve said in the numerous links that I have provided instead of asking such a silly question which tells more about what you haven’t done as oppose to what you have.
I told you to take this sort of claim to ATMB. You did insult another poster and you were simply told to stop rather than receiving an official Warning. If you do not like that, you are welcome to take it up in a separate thread in ATMB, but it is not permitted to hijack a thread to argue infractions.
Yes. Silliness. I have not claimed that everything you have posted was silly. I noted that some of it was and provided and example: relying on a person with no training in metallurgy to identify the composition of a metallic object is silly.
(And you can drop the odd comments about me being a Moderator. My actions as a Mod are limited to telling you not to insult other posters and do not carry over to topic discussions.)
You are the one who brought it up in the first place and not me
I am not interested wasting time making a claim with the ATMB and whats the point anyway.
All I can vouch for is that I haven’t directly called anyone here an idiot and if people disagree they can quote my words line by line on where I said explicitly that such and such is an idiot.
No no point beating a dead horse on this issue and people should just move on just as I have done.
As I have provided this link on numerous occasions if people are at least honest enough to see what the other party DID state then we would have far less misunderstanding and wasted hours going nowhere.
This is the statement written in this article.
The following documentation is provided to answer the critics who have viciously slandered Marcel Vogel in an attempt to discredit him and, thereby, his analysis of the metal alloy samples, allegedly given to Meier by the Plejaren.
Vogel was firm in stating that the metal alloys were not reproducible by him, nor were they the product of any technology known to him at the time.
Marcel Vogel: Research chemist for IBM for twenty-two years, held thirty- two patents, and invented the magnetic disk coating memory system still used in IBM disk memories.
A specialist in the conversion of energy inside crystals, Vogel probed crystalline
structures with the most complete optical microscopic equipment available in the
world - a system of scanning electron microscopes costing $250,000. Lieut. Col.
Wendelle Stevens, USAF (Ret.): One of the original investigators in the Meier
case. In 1979, he sent Vogel crystals and metal samples Meier had received
from the Plejarens. Vogel reported, ”When I touched the oxide with a stainless
steel probe, red streaks appeared and the oxide coating disappeared. I just
touched the metal like that, and it started to deoxidize and become a pure metal.
I have never seen a phenomenon like that before.
So what’s the point? What’s the motivation? So the evidence in the Meier case has you newinitiation convinced the aliens are real. Lots of people believe incredible things based on whatever they are willing to accept as being true. It’s all about the perception of the individual.
What are you hoping to gain from this thread? I’ve seen you get more frustrated and abusive over the course of this thread and what ever your good intentions might be, it’s not helping.
Why so much focus on the evidence of their presence and so little attention to their message? Did they come all the way over here just to give Billy the alien “dog and pony” show? And more surprisingly, did they think it would cause us to radically change the views we hold and the things we do? I watched the video Contact with W. Stevens and others, and the most interesting thing I took from it is that apparently they want nothing from us. Absolutely nothing. They just want us to be happy. Are you happy?
Well, newinitiation, it’s be a slice. Up till the part when your punctuation and capitalization totally fled, you were mildly amusing. I’ll remember you and your drunken alien pilots driving fancy trashcan lids in the trees for a long time. I may use the websites you’ve directed us to in order to teach my children about pseudo-science, so thanks.
I had already read that information. Note the utter lack of the word “metallurgist” or “metallurgy” in his curriculum vitae? He was simply not trained to examine metals.
Looking to him is like looking at all the “experts” who insist that the World Trade Center had to have been brought down by planted explosives when none of them are trained in structural design or structural failure analysis. They are out of their fields and their opinions are not worth much.
Geezz I’ve thrown in a few profanities, which by the way, most people living in the industrialized world would normally hear and use themselves in their everyday life and I am accused of being abusive!?
George Carlin said it best when he said to the effect that with the use of such a language, the context in which it is said is important as words are neutral in itself.
To answer your question which by the way is the most intelligent of all questions I have received on this thread so far, the point of it all is that even if I know what the proverbial response by the majority of people here and elsewhere is going to be, nevertheless Billy’s name would be out there for those who will by chance bump into his information from such a forum as this in the future.
Even if 1 person out of every 10,000 had the opportune moment to truly reflect upon Billy’s information by honestly assessing his case with dignity and grace with the impetus produced from having bumped into his material here amist the negativity it would have served its purpose.
Time will tell of course and usually time does tell in the end
I am confident that by the year 2029 majority of people around the world will see the truthfulness of Billy Meier’s case and will deem it to be unequivocally true.
In respect to the Plejaren and Billy’s message, those who are ready to handle the truth will eventually bump into it and I have already provided the links to his teachings anyway but seeing as nobody is bothered to read it, I guess their minds are still not ready to handle the profound truth.
The Plejaren are not here to force anything on us and neither does Billy, in the ned everyone has to think for themselves and be responsible for their own thoughts, feelings and actions.
The onus is left to us to decide for ourselves and we must do so by exercising our own free volition and will.
The spiritual teachings and the principle of the teachings will only be understood and appreciated it by those that actually end up getting to it through their own volition and effort and nobody can do it for anybody but each and every individual by themselves alone.
Most are very dishonest with themselves and deceive themselves through rational lies (rationalize).
All they are interested in is to ridicule the case without even knowing the reasons why except for the fact that they have read somewhere in the numerous anti Meier websites that does this in perpetuity.
I am happy in the fact that for whatever its worth I am doing my part but of its consequences none can actually gauge the worth of except to say that if the truth is opposed so fiercely here in this forum as well, I must be doing my part somehow.
