Because right there you grossly overestimate your critical thinking abilities.
Dr. Feynmann had a good line about it once: I’m smart enough to know I’m stupid.
You apparently think you are too smart to be fooled in any manner. That is the first sign of someone who is going to make a mistake.
I don’t buy into Billy’s stuff because it is so laughable. That you could fall for it while declaring your skepticism and now this level of 'I am a soooper bullshit finder" is a classic model of why people end up believing stupid stuff.
I am not missing the point, you are. I created an example of a a hoax that would be so obvious that even someone as credulous as you appear to be would recognize it as such.
Then I showed the parallel way in which mystic7’s wierd claim mirrored the obviously false example that I had provided, in which anachronisms demonstrate their falseness in each case. (That is known as an analogy.)
The problem is that mystic7 explicitly claimed that the person to which Judaism and Christianity refer as “Immanuel” was “really” “Jmmanuel.” However, if the original language was Hebrew, there is no letter “J”. So the “translator” made up something that was not true. If the original language was Greek, there is no letter “J”. So the “translator” made up something that was not true. If the original language was Latin, there would have been no letter “J” 2,000 years ago.
The history of letters are known. Claiming that a name, (that looks suspiciously like a name that is already known to everyone), was “really” a different name that was spelled with letters that did not exist is nonsense. It is not as though J had some secret history. It was simply a change to the letter I when it was used as a consonant. That is why the J in German indicates that sound that the letter Y represents in English, today. Adopted into French, the letter J was used to represent the sound of a soft “G”. In Spanish, it was used to represent a rough breathed sound. In every case, however, it was initially used on words that began, in Latin, with an I. There was no place for a J in Hebrew or Greek, so “translating” some alleged “Lyrian” letter to that letter makes no sense in the context of 2,000 years ago.
Pretending that JHWH (while insisting on the initial J), was some sort of wise person whose name was spelled with a J makes no sense because we already know that YHWH is simply the English transliteration of the Hebrew name that begins with yodh and that JHWH is simply the German equivalent, given the difference in the use of J in German.
Yet, in Hebrew we find references to YHWH and to Immanuel that predate mystic7’s claim. We also find similar references to Immanuel in Greek prior to mystic7’s claim. Yet, mystic7 implies that the J spelling (that could only have originated 550 years ago, is the original from which the words found in Hebrew and Greek were taken or copied or corrupted.
If you cannot recognize the absurdity of mystic7’s claim from that, then you are either not competent to evualate any of the things that have been proposed in this thread or you don’t care about facts and evidence and are simply here to peddle your odd beliefs, regardless of facts or in spite of truth.
If your texts proposed that Alexander invaded Persia driving an M1A2 Abrams tank, would you expect us to believe it because it was in your texts? Recognizing that certain events cannot happen before they actually occurred is a basic point of awareness and logic.
Googling already lead me to that site. It’s full of commentary and articles about the TJ. I don’t want those. I want the actual text of the TJ. Is it online?
My problem, in addition to the anachronistic “J,” is the part about “a parchment preserved in a resin for nearly 2000 years.” Where is this document now? Who has seen it? Who has been allowed to analyze fragments of the resin? If a nice visiting bloke from UCLA wanted to look at it, where would he go? Do you have any photographs we can see here online?
The Talmud Jmmanuel was translated by Isa Rashid who was a lay Greek Orthodox priest.The ET’s determined that this first edition contained errors of translation which were a result of Rashid’s religious influences. The correct spelling off Jmmanuel’'s name was relayed to Billy by the ET’s on separate occasions…
As Mystic7 pointed out the parchment was burned out and completely destroyed by the Mossad during an assassination attempt on Isa Rashid and his family’s life.
That leaves Billy and the Plejaren & Feds as the other living witnesses to the parchment
Look the same way that any honest person would purchase a book from a bookstore or amazon.com to read books of his/her own interest, the TJ is also a copyrighted book in which a great deal of efforts towards writing and then publishing it was undertaken, so why would anyone want to rip it off and deny a source of pay towards its creator by downloading illegal copies of the book.
Just to give you an idea of what its about these are the selected excerpt of chapters from the 3rd addition of the TJ
Introduction
Sermon on the Mount
12 Commandments
Laws and Proverbs
Prophecy
Final Teachings
Creation
Just to shave off several years or two for your sake, one of prophecies deals with a large space based telescope which will be called the planet seeker in the year 2025.
So you’ve got 12 years
The Henoch prophecies also has the Vatican being completely destroyed by the eruption of Mt Vesuvius and an earthquake and the pope will no longer reside in Rome as a result.
So watch out for that as well.
In the contact notes it also mentions a devastating earthquake off the Pacific North-west of USA near Oregon but also San Fransisco will be decimated.
Not to be outdone, there is also the La Palma’s Cumbre Vieja volcano which will crumble to the sea calling a mega tsunami that wipes off the chain of Islands in the Canary Islands but also devastate much of the east coast of USA including New York and Washington
Depending on the severity the death toll from this tsunami may run into millions.
And they told him that the “correct” spelling of a name that was used in Hebrew around the year 736 B.C.E. used the Latin/English letter “J” at a time when no such letter appeared in the Latin alphabet.
Sorry. The ETs lied. I would not trust them on any other point if they have to lie about something as simple as a name.
Even assuming there ever was a “Lyrian” language, :rolleyes: , these ETs are claiming that the “correct” translation of a 2,000 year old document, (thus dated around 30 to 25 B.C.E.), with the “true” origin of the names Immanuel and YHWH, (the first had been in Hebrew since, at latest, 736 B.C.E. and the second was much older than that), actually should be translated with a character that was not introduced to Latin–a completely different language that changed the spelling of Immanuel to Emmanuel–until the end of the fifteenth century C.E.
So how, according to these mendacious ETs, did the Hebrew people come to use those names more than 700 years previous to their talmud?
This is why we call bullshit on the alleged Talmud Jmmanuel. It is something that some twit who did not understand language, chronology, or history held up as a new revelation, getting basic information wrong. (And, of course, now it is gone–how conveenient.)
I suppose that it might be amusing to compare the Talmud Jmmanuel to the actual Gospel of Matthew, (which was a couple of hundred years old before your false date of 325), but I suspect that I would simply find more of the same errors throughout it.
Sorry. This is silly. mystic7 is promoting this belief in a name “Jmmanuel” and you tell us that the pronunciation is identical to that of the real name Immanuel, but for some reason, the spelling has to include a letter that did not exist for another 1500 years.
Why are you introducing the idea of an illegal download?
We can find on-line versions of multiple translations of the bible at www.biblegateway.com. Now, there are also translations of the bible that are copyright protected that are not on that web site, so no sinister motives are ascribed to keeping your book out of the public domain. However, there is no reason for you to imply that anyone in this thread was looking for an illegal copy. If you folks are trying to spread your “truth,” it would seem that getting a free copy out to the world would be a good idea.
Accusations (or implications) that other posters are being dishonest are not appropriate.
So, if I understand all this correctly, the aliens are hiding evidence and making sure that their pictures look an awful lot like garbage can lids and replacing themselves with 70s models in order to maintain plausible deniability, because they’re worried that humanity wouldn’t be able to cope with knowledge of their existence. Is that basically right?
If that’s true, and these superior beings that you so admire and look up to are taking this strategy, why are you three actively working against them by fighting so hard to convince other people that they actually exist? Surely the aliens know best, right? I mean, basically, you three are traitors to the cause by your efforts to prove to us unprepared humans that they do exist, which is directly against their express will.
Further, if you admit that the evidences are deliberately designed to be plausible deniable, then why do you find it so hard to believe when people don’t buy into them? I mean, surely these all-powerful supreme beings are really really good at making the evidence look cheap and stupid, so why are you shocked when they have succeeded at failing to convince everyone?
They will not distribute copies or translations of the most spiritually important document uncovered in the past 1500 years to souls who need it because they want to maintain a profit? And you consider these beings to be benevolent?
Please reconsider who you are placing your faith in. It is more in the nature of a devil than an angel to taunt Man with images deliberately designed to look false, or with the promise of TRUTH if paid for.
Or am I misunderstanding who the “creator” of this work is? If Billy “made it up” then he has full rights to any profit from it. If he is simply acting as the conduit for ancient wisdom then it is his duty to humanity to release it freely to all.
And the “discovery” of the “Talmud” was in 1963, not 1970-1975, meaning it was dated around 37 B.C.E. (if it was 2,000 years old), or somewhat later if the “2,000 years” was just a sloppy generalization.
(Of course, neither of those point do anything to make the case less obviously a fraud.)
