BIOLOGY 101--an oral sex tale

Yes, because football players are all as thick as pigshit.

JB

not necessarily true. my brother was 18 in the 11th grade, and was not behind in school.

Bill Clinton notwithstanding, because the girl was under 15 and the guys were more than two years older, it IS a felony in Louisiana. Oral counts.

Way to spin off topic with an irrelevant Bill Clinton non sequitur.

Beg to differ… not knowing the specifics of course, but how does one get to be 18 in 11th grade without A)failing/being held back/otherwise missing a year or B) starting late? Either way you’re behind in school.

However, your original comment was that as he was 18 in 11th Grade AND a football player, he was probably ** not the sharpest tool in the shed **.

He could have fallen behind any number of ways, including illness, moving interstate/intercountry among others.

JB

I agree with those who say we don’t have enough to go on in order to make a final judgement.

But responding to your above statement, consent might not be an issue here. It is entirely possible that fellatio occured without any action, solicitation or promotion on the part of these boys. Are you a party to assault because you were knifed by a 14 year old. Granted, these boys might have enjoyed it.
Also, in many jurisdictions, as I remember there are provisions for 14 year olds to legally consent in many states, at least through marriage, and statutory rape laws have exclusions for older minors.

Hmmm, dammit, my high school was so boring!

Uh, I’m confused. Please give a scenario where a 14 year old girl is able to perform oral sex on two football players, several years her senior, without “any action, solicitation, or promotion” on their part. What? Were they utterly powerless and helpless? I have a really hard time imagining such a scenario.

That may (may) be applicable for the 17 year old, but certainly not for the 18 year old.

Au contraire I think I was totally on topic. Whether you like it or not, the English language will forever remember and use Mr. Clinton’s now-famous response to whether he had sex or not.

And it was certainly not a non-sequitur. It certainly followed from the previous discussion.

Plus, as a Liberal Democrat, I can say anything I please. So :stuck_out_tongue:

For the legally challenged, please read the following statute from Louisiana. http://lapda.org/1999_laws.htm This is as of 2001, so I have no doubt that it is current.

Forget about statutory rape. They weren’t charged with that.

Forget about whether the boys were the aggressors or the victims. It doesn’t make any difference.

There isn’t any provision for a 14-year-old to consent, unless she was married to one of the boys.

What is so hard to understand about what they were charged with and the law?

14 year old girl: I’m bored
football player #1: Yeah.
football player #2: Me too.
14: What’s taking the teacher so long to copy those tests?
fp #1: I dunno.
fp #2: Me too.
14: Want a BJ to pass the time?
fp #1: Sure.
fp #2: Me too.
Okay, I doubt I happened like that, but like many of us have pointed out many freshmen girls date senior guys and have no problem with being sexual with them.

IANApsychologist (yet), but I can visualize this girl as one that got around (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) for whatever reason (sexual abuse as a child, love of the attention from being the class slut, etc.) and wanted to top herself and any other sluts in the school. I know the type, but I haven’t heard any stories that bad.

This scenario sounds extremely unlikely, but if it didn’t happen that way, isn’t the “Me too” and “Sure” from the football players enough of a “promotion”? They made a conscious choice to consent - they could have said “no”, but instead said “Sure”.

What do you mean by this?

So I too would be on topic, samclem, if you told you to blow me?

Waverly
Unfortunately, I’m not up on how the law views solicitation as regards the internet. I would think that it might be a crime in some states. :smiley:

About a thousand years ago, when I was in high school, us guys had deep discussions on what we know nothing. That is, girls and sex. There were two philosophical viewpoints: “Girls are like potatoes. When they’re big enough, they’re old enough.” vs “It’s warm and pink inside her, but grey and cold inside jail.”

I did not understand what these phrases meant.

Like every other male, these guys were thinking with the wrong head. But don’t worry. The judge will understand that boys will be boys.

snort

I’m certainly not in the crowd where this goes on I just know that one of my friends saw a guy making odd faces in a stall and having trouble keeping his balance. (he saw his head over the top of the door), and then as he was walking out he noticed a girl coming out of the stall with the guy. I also have heard rumors of other incidents. Of course maybe it’s only common at my school (which would not surprise me in the least).

Sounds like grienspace got caught with his pants down with a minor she-vixen and is still angry about it. Bitter much? Would you like to share?