First of all, I am freely admitting that I have been lurking for nearly two years on these boards, and consider most of you to be solid acquaintances of mine, although you don’t know me at all…I have been the blessed recipient of much wonderful and timely advice, unbeknownst to any of you, which I have needed greatly in the last two tumultuous years of my life. Naturally, I have been royally entertained as well. Now I find that I actually need to solicit your wisdom, and no time like the present.
After some 14-ish years of “being involved”, I found myself suddenly free to date whether I wanted it or not about a year ago. With some luck and a lot of perseverance, I have succeeded in attracting the attention of a fabulous and exciting man, and we have been on a number of thrilling dates now, with the next one occurring later this week. I hope I am expressing my exuberance for this man appropriately! I’m enthralled and I feel VERY lucky to have his warm attentions. In the course of our many conversations, he has admitted to me that he uses Viagra. I tried to be VERY cool and worldly about this, and I think I pulled it off, but in fact other than what I have managed to garner from medical and drug company websites, and the usual quota of jokes that make the circuit, I know NOTHING about this drug. Certainly I know nothing of any practical application. This is where I am hoping you can help me out.
I don’t care a whit about WHY you/your loved one/your partner/your friend/your relative/your patient is on an ED drug. I am only interested in what you have observed happens after the little blue pill is ingested. Some specifics are, what can be the duration of an erection, is there any difference in sensitivity to the penis (could I perform oral sex and not hurt him?), what is an orgasm like (for HIM) if one can even be achieved? What are the advantages of an ED drug, beyond the obvious one of achieving an erection? I understand MY MMV, but armed with a few personal, real-life experiences, perhaps I can ease my own nervousness and make this the adventure of my life…the rest of the budding relationship has everything in its favor. We are at the “next date will involve sex” juncture, so anything you are willing to share with me will be appreciated.
If I have missed a previous thread on this topic, with personal observations included, please indicate so righteously, and direct me to it. I have no fears of being humbled by you, as this protege will not mind gentle (or strict) discipline from her greater masters. So I ask—what say you on this subject?
Ok…I’ll be the first one to admit to using the little blue pills. My personal experience is that they turn me into an Olympian (“Citius, Altius, Fortius.”) My erections are harder, last longer, and are packaged in multiple-use format, rather than single-serving packages. I also notice a carry-over effect, in that the drug still seems to be active the next morning. Otherwise, no difference at all!
I wouldn’t worry about hurting him any, unless he asks you to.
A tip I learned (I’m 24 and don’t need the pill yet, but it would be fun to spring that on some por, unsuspecting date), but if you heat it up, like put it in your glove box for a week or so during summer, it gets a lot more potent. If you’re older and your heart might not take it, that may be bad.
Hell, I’m not even condoning it, I’m just pointing (snerk) it out.
first some basic pharmacy, it works by improving the response of the blood vessels to the nitrogen based vasodilators, same basic principal that allows nitrogycerin to improve blood flow to the heart. Onset is about an hour to an hour and a half. Some people will feel a little flushing to the face. There’s very low risk of prolonged erection (priapiasm), but I believe it can happen with certain risk factors. Sensitivity and orgasm should be pretty much normal, drive is unaffected except for whatever psychological effect it might have. There are 3 sifferent versions. Viagara is most widely known, levitra is a “cleaner” drug according to a doc I know, and Cialis (see alice) is the weekend pill, supposed to be good for a couple of days, they bill it as giving more freedom of spontaneity, but that’s marketings story. I’ve tried all 3 and like viagara best, works well, and yeah there’s still enough left to feel the effect in the morning. The only thing you really NEED to do, in my opinion, is not rush the interval between dosing and action, let the medication get on board, along these lines he’ll have to make a decision that tonights the night, and then give him the time. Sounds like this gentleman has the experience to be comfortable enough to talk to you, so I wouldn’t worry to much, just let it take it’s course, good luck
Er… one thing… could be that such a pill can have an effect on foreplay. That is, you won’t have as much chance to enjoy bringing him to erection. When he gets hard, it’ll be faster, rather than giving you as much time to watch the wood grow. (If that’s your thing.) Which is no excuse for him not to wait up for you.
Thanks so much for the info, this is exactly along the lines of what I had hoped to discover! Sweetie is 52, I am 48, we are in excellent health otherwise (nothing heart-wise to be concerned about even if we preheat the pill for added potency), but his frank confession left me wondering how to approach him when the time comes…and they just don’t tell you this stuff at howitworks.com!!
GREAT to know about the rapid foreplay, Civil Guy, and I am equally ecstatic re: the possibility of morning-after sex, outlierrn! I can always hope for something god-like, silenus, as in multi-orgasms, but I hope he’ll spare me the lightning, should he rise to the occasion(s) in the same way YOU do. I’m there for dinner and intimacy, not looking to become the Bride of Frankenstein. Tho I greatly admire her hairdo.
For me, both Viagra and Levitra take about a half-hour to take effect. I get a little flushed. Later on, my nose will get a bit stuffy, and I’m somewhat prone to a mild sinus headache, so I usually take a Sudafed along with the Viagra.
The standard dose for Viagra is 50 mg, but I get by just fine on 25 mg.
Sex is about the same as it was before, but better, because there’s nothing to worry about. The erection’s going to be there, so performance anxiety is a thing of the past. I have ED because of a drug side-effect, and frankly, it turned out to be a blessing, as the plumbing didn’t seem to be getting any better as I aged.
I do, however, have a dose of the Little Blue Pill. Was given to me by a lady friend, who raves on and on how it made sex with her boyfriend into this amazing thing.
I am a little afraid to use it, if only because I don’t have a medical condition that would provide a need, and I’m not big on recreational drugs.
That, and my wife is a one shot deal sorta girl, most times.
Tristan, you know, I HAVE thought a bit about what the future ramifications of this could be as well. It’s all very well and good that the first-time encounter, or even the first-several-time trysts will be lengthy, showy sessions…I expect to both give and receive a lot of passion over a longer period of time initially. But what about when a relationship becomes comfortable and you are NOT having these wild date nights any longer…will sex have to be planned? I suppose a lot depends upon why my guy needs/how my guy uses Viagra , and that is just something I don’t know right now.
Well, he does have a medical condition which happened to him some years ago wherein he had some nerve and vein damage done to his penis, which is the WHY (short but somewhat uninteresting ex-wife tale involved there, I won’t bore you with it). The long-term impact will have to wait, I guess.
What do those of you who use Viagra do in the long-term, on a day-to-day basis?
I don’t want to overanalyze this, really. That’s why I attempted to be lighter in tone here. I’m astounded at what great responses I’ve gotten. Do you suppose my guy will object to my referring to my SDMB notes from time to time whilst we “indulge”?
It’s not a day-to-day thing with me. I use it as a “helper” for times I plan on a long-term action. For the regular, spur-of-the-moment boink it isn’t needed. But I’m not a teenager anymore, and as the old saying goes “What I once could do all night now takes all night to do.”
There is also a plethora of “activities” that don’t need a rock-hard phallus to engage in. If he needs Viagra due to nerve damage, then I recommend Cialis, which gives you a 36 hour or so window of “help.” Makes things much more spontaneous.
Whatever happens, make sure you keep the lines of communication open. For most guys this is a sensitive issue, as it strikes at our very concept of “Manhood.” But it sounds like you have matters on that front well in hand, so to speak.
No, it won’t have to be planned. Just bear in mind that anything spontaneous will involve at least 30 mins to an hour of foreplay. Horrible fate, innit?
OK - I’ll fess up to the little blue pill, too. I have… hormonal difficulties - see a previous thread if you’re really curious.
I’m using it less as the HRT is working more effectively but it’s nice for when I’m feeling a little weak or simply for recreational purposes (I took it once while on a recent 2nd honeymoon with my wife).
It doesn’t turn me into a superman or a hat-rack. It takes about 60-90 minutes to reach full effectiveness and seems to last about 12 hours. Morning-after sex, or even a “nooner” is fairly easy. I don’t get an erection for 12 hours - it takes some sort of stimulation but the erection is faster & easier than without the pill.
My wife says it’s like having the old “me” back - the one from before all the hormone problems. It doesn’t turn me into Ron Jeremy - nothing is larger than what it would be otherwise. As far as I can say, I don’t think I orgasm with any more difficulty or ease that without. Sensations are about the same.
I still need an idle period between trysts as Mr Happy still softens when done.
Negatives: Sleeping is occaisonally difficult. Men normally have erections as part of regular sleep. If I’m lying face down, these erections are more intense and occasionally uncomfortable. Other negative effects are a slight hyperness and feeling that my face is flushed & warm. Oh - and it’s prohibitively expensive. I have found, though, that the higher dosage is just as expensive as the lower and the pills can be halved.
Rebecca, unless the damage you refer to is fairly serious, then Viagra will probably end up being one of those useful helpers “sometimes”.
There will be those occasions when the rod arises and you’d need a 2x4 to break it off. And there will be those occasions where 3 or 4 teenaged nymphos couldn’t quite get a rise out of Mr. Peter.
Your friend knows which is which. About the only time it’s a “problem” is when he walks in the door, you throw him to the floor to mount him :eek: and find out it’s one of those weak nights . If you plan on throwing him to the floor, give him a little notice!
I’ve taken Cialis before, the 36-hour window thing is definitely true and I had no side effects other than an immediate skin flush on my back that stopped tingling about 15 minutes later. I found it a middlin’ experience. No sheep in a 15 mile area was safe, but then I’ve gotten the same results from a strong pot of coffee so I dunno if it was worth twenty bucks. My turnaround time didn’t drop to zero or anything, but I was ready every half hour for an entire weekend.
It was kinda neat but I’m only 32 and excessively functional as it is, so it wasn’t a Christmas miracle or anything. It just turned me up a notch.
Sensitivity: Same.
Duration: Same.
Orgasms: No change.
Morning sex?: Yes.
Advantages: Annoy neighbors more than usual, delight and terrify your girlfriend.
Disadvantages: Depletion of all your Kleenex after girlfriend leaves because the terror won, cost, weird hot flash effect while the blood vessels in your skin dilate.
Do it again: Sure, but I haven’t felt compelled to order my own. I’d bum another off my friend if I was in field goal range and he had one handy.
On the whole it was rather mild. I want to try Viagra next but I’m terrified that I won’t be able to walk around in public without a huge bulge in the crotch until it wears off, and I’d be trapped my apartment.
