That’s pretty much it. When I did a quick search of her posts last night, she was doing drive-by pissings in threads in ALL the forums she posted in. Not every post of hers was a pisser, some seemed to be mild in tone. I didn’t do an in-depth reading of her posts, just read the first few lines that came up on the search. I did note a pattern of behavior which I don’t like, and is detrimental to the board.
And it’s spelled BODONI, not BODINI, as someone else mentioned.
Somewhat, but accusing someone of teenage angst after a long, whining, self-indulgent, blog-style OP is certainly LESS jerkish than calling someone “vile and nasty,” as someone did to Carol in that thread.
Judging from the fact that you’ve seen fit to contribute to it more than 1000 times in the last 11 months, I’d guess you do.
If you don’t like this place, why are you still here? I ask this not out of a desire to offend you and get you to leave, but out of honest curiosity. Why stay if it frustrates you? Once upon a time, I was a paying member at the Ars Technica boards, but I decided I didn’t like it. So I left.
You’re on the fucking *Internet *-- you’re no more than a few keystrokes away from almost any sort of (virtual) place you can imagine. Why stay somewhere that you complain about?
I disagree. Calling someone vile and nasty is at least a response to someone’s posting. Dismissing somone’s post as being mere teenage angst is refusing to engage with them at all, and flaunts your lack of engagement. It’s not just saying “You’re an idiot for saying that” it’s “You’re an idiot for saying that, and I am so much better than you that I don’t even need to respond to you”.
Carol Stream has built a reputation here. Unless a poster has made a reputation for coming into threads only to call other posters “vile and nasty,” I don’t think the comparison holds.
Interesting distinction. I don’t really take “you’re a vile and nasty person,” to mean, “Well, we may have a disagreement, but I eagerly anticipate a friendly debate on the topic.”
The old “love it or leave it,” argument. Is it really necessary to get so nationalistic? Is it possible that a little constructive criticism can make your board - gasp! - even better?
And neither do I, nor did I say that. But it does, at the very least, indicate that someone has read what you’ve said and considers the content worth insulting you over. Dismissing someone’s post as just a symptom of teenage angst is saying you find a post totally without worth. Obviously which you consider to be worse is a matter of opinion; i’m just saying to call one “certainly less jerkish” than the other may not be other’s view of the situation.
You call it “whim and personal taste”; others call it “best judgement”. ISTM that there’s a diverse enough staff around here to keep the Board from getting wrecked by having a power-mad Mod, or even Administrator, throwing his or her weight around arbitrarily.
Best judgement, IMHO has served this Board particularly well.
And if you ever see someone claiming that the “don’t be a jerk” rule IS clear and uniformly enforced, please call my attention to it. I’d love an opportunity to join you in pointing and laughing at them.
Well, you and Carol thought that. I took skeptic’s post as a view from the trenches. And to me, it didn’t seem nearly as much about “My job sucks!” as “Black Friday shoppers are insane!” Which they are, many of them.
If skeptic said that her job sucks every single day, I’d agree with you guys. But it was Black Friday, and her first Black Friday. She was shell-shocked. I’ve worked Black Friday, and my reaction was, “Thank Og all I ever sold was books, trinkets or housewares.” But electronics bring a special level of crazy. Look at the Playstation 3 thread. And skeptic never implied that she was the only person who has ever had to deal with this, or that she deserves better.
Again I say, is no one allowed to vent about their job?
Nitpick – “Our board,” if you please. To the extent that the community belongs to its members, it really is yours, too.
You are helping to pay for the bandwith and overhead, after all.
And that gets close to the heart of the matter, too. The vast majority of regularly-posting Dopers, including you, are positive contributors who provide input that makes the Board a better, or at least more interesting, place for their having posted.
And then there are some who drop little turds all over the place, apparently to see if they can elicit a negative response, or a collection of them.
Perhaps my standards are too low, but I don’t really find myself craving “even better”, with or without gasps. And “continuing to operate” strikes me as a pretty good benchmark against which to evaluate a claim of “working amazingly well.”
This is an argument I’ve had before and didn’t especially enjoy, so I won’t revisit now. I’m of the position that when you take personal matters onto a public discussion board with strangers, you may receive unsympathetic posts. It doesn’t seem like that controversial a stance, but apparently it is.
But what you fail to grasp, apparently, is that there’s unsympathetic (read: Stinkpalm’s post, wherein he addressed the fact that he disagreed with the OP, and why he did so) and then there’s thread-shitting, which is what Ms Stream seems to excel at, in almost every thread she touches.
If someone comes into a thread and says “I disagree with your OP for these reasons”, then that’s something that 99% of the population of this board are happy with and even support. Nobody expects that every single person is going to be all love and kisses with what they say, especially in the pit. But there’s a marked difference between addressing what you disagree with and just coming into a thread to say “Shut your stupid noise-hole you over-entitled crybaby” or some variation on that theme, and that is what most people are taking exception to. The person hasn’t bothered actually reading the OP, they’ve just picked up a few key words, latched on and started spewing hate on something they don’t even care about. In other words… They’re doing it to be a jerk.
Walter, this post by Stinkpalm is unsympathetic. It’s also constructive: if skeptic thinks she’ll be in retail for a while, she really does need to man up. Carol’s post, OTOH, was a rude dismissal of the OP on the basic grounds that it was a rant about work.
It was jerkish.
In fact, I’d almost put it in the same general class as the poster who, on seeing a thread entitled “My baby died”, chose to pick a nit and say, “Excuse me, but it wasn’t a baby.” Not comparing working BF to a failed pregnancy, mind you, but objecting to the fact of an OP is very different from objecting to the content.
It kills me that Cranston (who looked like he was really going to be a valuable poster) was summarily banned because of a small fit of pique. Only to leave a troll like **Carol Stream ** lingering and shitting all over the Dope. Way to kill the board, IMHO.
I say give **Carol ** the Axe and ask **Cranston ** to come back.
I think the problem isn’t so much that she said, “This is a stupid thread that shouldn’t be in this forum,” so much as the fact that she felt compelled to say so fifteen goddamned times. Without, so far as I can see, ever advancing any sort of an argument or refining her position beyond, “This thread sucks.” Her opinion was made perfectly clear with her first post. Everything after that was basically spam.