Boo hoo. Poor me. Whatever.

I warn you. This is a long one. I think. It supposed to be, but I won’t know for sure until I’m done. If I keep this up it’ll be real long. Stop. I’m ok now.

OK. A lot of you have replied to a couple of my threads describing my inability to approach women just out of nowhere. I know I’m not the only one with this problem, assuming for a moment it actually is a problem. Anyway, I’ve been on a couple of dates recently. I’m 21, by the way. They were both very cute, and had their personalities matched their looks, I would not be sitting here on a Friday night writing this.

The first one was 22 year old Jennifer. She began the night in a sweatshirt and jeans, knowing we were going to a nice restaraunt(with dress code). We went to Bennigan’s instead. She got in my car and immediately accused me of being a sexist pig because I listen to the Ticket, which is the local sports radio station. I flipped it to some crap music she wanted to listen to. I have no idea what that shit was, but I was trying to keep the peace. On the way there, she started bringing up some of these advocacy groups she’s involved in and told me to remind her to get me a “Vote for Gore” bumper sticker when I dropped her off after the date. I informed her I was a Republican and that led to complete silence all the way to the restaraunt. I was wondering if she was ever going to speak to me again. We get there and I ordered a beer. She gives me the ‘you can never go out and not have a beer alcoholic’ talk. She doesn’t even know me! So I get a Dr. Pepper instead. The waitress comes back with our drinks. She orders a salad and I order a burger. This look of rage came over her. I was just waiting for her head to spin around and projectile vomit to fly all over myself and the couple behind us. The waitress looked at her, looked at me with fear in her eyes, saw the fear in my eyes, and quickly left. That’s when I got the ‘I’m in PETA any meat animal by-product is bad’ speech. I called the waitress over and asked if she’d placed our orders. She informed me that she had gotten the clue that we might not be sticking around and had hung on to the order, just in case. I thanked her and took Jennifer home. One down.

Next came 25 year old Amanda. Not only could she not carry on an intelligent conversation, she couldn’t even maintain a single train of thought for more than what seemed like a few seconds.

“Hi. My names Amanda. It’s nice to meet I was at the Gap the other day and saw the most awesome oh my God look at what she’s wearing. Can you believe she would wear that in public. That’s just there’s this guy I ran into and he said…”

You get the idea. At least she wasn’t a total bitch, but I could feel her just sucking the intelligence from my brain. Which would have been ok if she had been able to retain the information she was taking from me. We eventually would have leveled out with IQ’s aproximately the equivalent of an amoeba’s. That’s combined IQ’s, I might add. You think I’m kidding, but no shit, it was like talking to a rock. I had to reach up every once in a while and wipe the drool off my chin. That little bit of excersise, I’m sure, is the only thing that kept me from going catatonic. I tried starting up a couple of my own conversations during the night, but after seeing the look of confusion on her face the first few tries, I gave up and let her have the floor for the rest fo the night. How the hell this woman got into college, I will never know. I mean, I can’t even imagine her even having an SAT score, much less a good one. I had this image of her looking at the SAT booklet and the whole thing just bursting into flames in an last fleeting attempt to save humanity and the national collegiate system. But I digress. We finished off the night at Sundance Square in Ft. Worth and I took her home. I didn’t say I’d call her back, nor did she. And we haven’t.

Now, I’m in Dallas. OK. I did have one other blind date after moving here, but it turned out to be one of my ex-g/f’s, so it doesn’t count. Thank God we broke up on good terms and were still friends. We ate dinner and saw a movie. All in all an enjoyable time, but we had been in one of those ‘comfortable’ relationships that we knew would never go anywhere. Anyway, I have had no luck meeting anyone I’m interested in. I’ve actually considered one of those dating service thingies, but I’m not sure about it. I mean, who sees all that info and how do those things even work? Does anybody have any other suggestions? Place to meet? Anything good I can slip into an unsuspecting woman’s drink?

I sit here alone waiting advice. :frowning: What a shitty Friday. At least I have plans tomorrow night. :slight_smile: Turn that frown upside down. I’m losing it. Where’s my therapist?

Not much advice, just wanted to say I thoroughly enjoyed your description. I feel for you - I’m in much the same boat. I better shut up before I make it worse for you.

There, there. {{{comforting hug}}}

Things romantic are often a total pisser–until, for no known reason, they suddenly aren’t and everything clicks. You’re just stuck in the Pisser Doldrums at the moment.

Digression for musing…is there a masculine equivalent for “gotta kiss a lot of frogs before ya find the prince”? You’re just, um, paddling the swamp right now looking for a likely frogess.

I don’t have any carved-in-stone answers for you, but would you accept some sympathy? Empathy? A cold beer?

Hang in there; big world, lotsa people, opportunities abound; even if you “just” make friends along the way, that isn’t such a bad deal.

Veb

You could always come to Frisco and watch television with the hub and me.

Okay so that doesn’t help your dating situation but it would get you out of the house for a few hours. :smiley:

Ahh, honey, don’t fret.

You are intelligent, cute and sweet, and sooner or later you will meet a woman who “floats your boat” quite well. The best thing to do is to develop a life around your interests and enthusiasms (I am sure you have some) and eventually you will meet a woman who shares some of them and makes you comfortably happy.

You have lots of time to find someone-there is no shame in being picky about who you want to spend your time with.

In fact, it is a mark of intelligence and maturity.

And BTW, you should probably take Grace up on her offer. I think that you would have a nice evening, from the little I know of her, she seems like a dollface.

Scotti

Grace is a dollface, Scotti! She’s also one of the funniest, toughest, kindest, most grounded ladies around.

Aglarond, if your ego ain’t swelling from the support and concern expressed by quality women around here, then your therapist couldn’t help anyway.

Fergit your therapist. These ladies are foxier, savvier, infinitely more supportive and don’t charge.

Veb

Awwwww shucks! I’m blushing. :o

I was serious about the offer though.

Smeghead: You’re not making it worse. I didn’t make any of it up, but it was meant to be at least somewhat humorous.

Grace: thanks for the offer. I may take you up on it sometime.

Scotticher: Yeah, it’ll happen and I’m trying not to force it. But, man, it sucks.

TVeblen: My ego isn’t swelling at all. As I stated in another thread, I already know I’m one sizzling hot piece of man flesh. It’s just that women are too intimidated by my good looks to approach me. :smiley:

Oh yeah, and TVeblen. Can we not bring up that frog again, please? I was really drunk, and she was fresh out of the pond on my patio ready and willing. I mean, would you have passed it up? I think not.

I agree, Grace is cute as a speckled pup and she could follow me home any day and I’d try to keep her.

And, an adorable lady besides.

Jim

…and Veb ain’t too hard on the peepers either…especially standing next to a giant inflatable penis :smiley:

http://home.revealed.net/ddwyer/qcdf.html

Oh, I’m sorry, I hit the wrong button.

Ag, I really feel for ya. I just commented earlier that maybe the self-esteem problem was behind you.

I really don’t have anything to help except that you have a lot going for you and I’m sure it won’t be long till someone a lot better comes along.

Jim

Yeah, I know it sucks, sweetie. But, you have to realize that if you want it TOO bad, you may end up with someone who is not right for you in terms of long term happiness, just because you don’t want to be alone.

It is never a good idea to settle for less than you want in a relationship. You would be happier alone than with someone who doesn’t “fit” you.

Yeah Scotticher, I know. I’m not going to just settle, or I would have grabbed onto Amanda. I know pretty much what I’m looking for, I just need to find it. She’ll come along eventually.

Great pictures, beagledave. I saw my dick in a couple of those pictures, but I don’t recall being there. Must have had a lot to drink that night. You know me. I’m one wild and crazy guy.

Dude, all I can say is you had two dates. Nevermind they sucked.

Ask someone who knows me really well how long it’s been for me. Hint: I was not in high school. I was not in college.

Is this one of those set your standards low and you won’t be dissapointed things? :slight_smile: You want me to hook you up. One’s a bitch and the other couldn’t find her way out of a paper sack. Which would you like?

Disclaimer:
After rereading that last post, I realize it sounded kinda hostile. That was not intentional. You may now return to your regularly scheduled posting.

Dude, take this from a guy who’s in a long term relationship.

DO NOT CHANGE ANY OF YOUR NATURAL HABITS ON THE FIRST DATE!

You know, the radio station, the burger, the beer. Do as you damn please. For a few simple reasons:

  1. Women don’t like guys that have no spine;
  2. If anything, a first date is about getting to know the other one;
  3. She’ll have plenty of time to change you in the next 25 years, should a relationship develop :smiley:

One bitch, one amoebe (sp?). Surely, there’s more fish in the sea. Even if you are in Dallas :stuck_out_tongue:

Yea, Coldy, there’s a lot of fish around here. Problem is, the two hot fish who live above me swim together and the rest that I’ve met were swimming around with other big guy fish. With big fins. And fangs. Probably poisonous. And rabid. I’ve found that the single ones I’ve met are single for a good reason. Or many good reasons. You get the idea. I’m going to bed now. I need some sleep.

—>public service action---->

::Veb grabs Aglarond by ears; plants a mind-melding kiss; drags Agla (in weakened state) back into thread::

WHAT we have here is a failure to communicate…and a dismal, undeserved, totally pointless crisis of confidence.

Okay, Ignorance is one thing, but damned, perverse, persistent stupidity is another…

There has to be A Better Way, and who but the Teeming Millions should blaze the path?

<—end public service action<----

Veb

Ag, my darling-

You are young. Young women have not yet learned that substance is more important than lots of other unimportant things such as looks (although you have no problem in this regard) and who is the Big Man on Campus.

Trust me (and the other oh so intelligent women on this board, who I believe will back me on this.) Give yourself some time. Have fun now, but if you wait a tad bit, you will find that things will get more reasonable. You will get more discerning about who you want to spend time with, and the women will get more appreciative of the things that are important. The things that you have to give them that are not being appreciated now.

I shudder to think about what my life would have been like had I married one of the men I was serious about when I was your age. And, I had better taste than most of my friends at that point!

I know that this “give it time” stuff is annoying, and I am sorry. However, it is true and I want you to relax and learn to be happy alone, or date casually until you find that truly wonderful woman who meshes with you so perfectly that you don’t want to ever be without her in your life.

It will happen.

Patience is a virtue. (I threw that in as an homage to my mom, bless her soul. She gave the most wonderful world class hugs EVER, and would want me to pass one on to you.)

Hugs,

Scotti