there are news reports saying boats hired to skim are having trouble finding the oil. Does this mean the dispersant has caused it to float below the surface?
It is not over yet. I don’t know how it will shake out.
Why would they need Obama’s agreement? BP is suppose to have all the expertise. The government has to trust that BP will do the right thing. The government can not drill. The government does not have submersibles. BP can say one thing and do another.
They may pour cement down the throat of this well. That does not mean they wont revisit this spot in the near future. It is a huge oil fine. BP wants it.
Smaller droplets rise more slowly. Of course, this blowout is also deeper than any heretofore, which allows more time for droplet dispersal too. The oil isn’t forming large slick areas, like past accidents. It’s forming jill ions of little slicks, over a large area.
You understand that they have to have licenses and permits for that sort of thing, right? You think they’re just going to sneak back in with a huge oil rig, start working, and nobody will notice? In addition to massive fines, they’d probably lose ALL of their leases in US waters. That’s not a risk they’re going to take.
Yes they have been terrified of regulators and inspectors for a long time, haven’t they. Like the bankers in congress and the senate , they own the place.
If any of the things about the ‘lake of oil’ in the basement of the Gulf are correct, then fuck BP or not, they oughta suck it up and sell it all. Real quick too.
We’re getting closer. I promise you that it is a virtue to have the ability to admit when you are wrong. You’re almost there; why don’t you just complete the act. If you now say that you don’t know how it will all shake out, then weren’t you wrong to state unequivocally that the well can not be stopped?
The best thing would be to not make flat out wrong statements in the first place. However, when you do and get called out on them, just admit that you went over board. It really isn’t that big a deal to do. Digging in your heals just makes you lose credibility.
They would need a permit from the Bureau of Ocean Management, Regulation, and Enforcement, which is a major part of the Department of Interior headed up by Ken Salazar. Ken Salazar reports directly to Barack Obama. This isn’t some time where the issue is minor and there are so many layers between the President and the decision maker that makes this something that the President would not know about until after the fact. This would definitely have to get Obama’s sign off before the BOEMRE does anything.
So, in other words, you now admit that this well is going to be plugged and that the only way they would produce these reserves is by drilling a brand new well? Wow, that sounds suspiciously like exactly what I have been saying and the opposite of what you have been saying. Again, there is no shame in admitting that you were wrong. Why don’t you just do it? You can still criticize BP from a hundred other legitimate angles. They deserve it.
I’m not trying to be a jerk here, and I’m certainly not defending BP. I am, however, going to point out something that is blatantly wrong when I see it though. I promise you, the truth is a lot more damning to BP.
Quit trying so hard. No I don’t know what they are going to do. I know what they say. That has not been what they do. I don’t trust BP even a little.
I wait patiently . Then when BP cheats everybody involved, lies about the flow rate and sics tons of lawyers on the little people who can not afford to defend themselves, and cheats the states they damaged ,then you might understand who we are dealing with. BP is giving us plenty of PR. They scoured their worker rolls looking for people who lived in the gulf. Then they trot them out with carefully prepared commercials explaining how ,because they were gulf residents, we can trust them to see the gulf will be perfectly fixed. They have no power. The gulf decisions are made in the dark by boards of execs who only care about money.
BP says they are not interested in getting the oil from that well? They have sure parked a lot of boats out there draining it. I wait to see.
You think it is blatantly wrong. Thats nice. You trust them. I do not.
Not a direct response to your question, but a semi-related interesting note. This comes from a statement from Bobbie Jindal, which I have not checked for accuracy.
Essentially, the skimming is not really a huge portion of the removal of the oil. The largest component is evaporation and biodegration. I imagine that a huge portion of the evaporation is the light sheen that sat on the surface. The more tar like heavy oil is probably floating below the surface.
I don’t understand this. Let’s say these lake of oil claims are correct (which I don’t believe for a second). Why in the world would you want to produce the well instead of plugging it? This supposed lake of oil is sitting in the water at the bottom of the Gulf. Why would its existence make you want to attempt to produce the well, potentially causing significantly more oil to leak and the lake to grow, instead of plugging the well and shutting it off permanently?
Well you made about two steps forward and a thousand back. What in the world are you talking about here? You are clearly back to digging in your heals and trying to deflect to something completely different than the topic at hand.
It’s very simple and nothing I am talking about even remotely relies on trusting BP. I’m challenging your trustiworthiness without making any statement on BP’s.
Point 1- You said the well can not be stopped. You had nothing to back that up. You back tracked and said it would present a problem. Then you said you didn’t know how it would shake out. Why won’t you just admit that when you said it can not be stopped that you were wrong? I challenged you on that simple point. You haven’t even bothered to repeat it and have in fact moved to a rational stance that you simply don’t know what will happen. I’m right there with you as is everyone else. Nobody knows exactly. Why won’t you just admit you were wrong initially?
Point 2 - You said that they would try to turn this well into a producer. You have stated it in multiple threads. You have nothing to back this up. All the logic in the world is against you. Even BP’s greediest, most evil, lying, unethical self-interest is against this. Arguing that it does not make sense in no way relies on trusting BP. All evidence in the world points to the opposite. When consistently countered on the point that if they want the oil so bad they would just drill another well, you finally back tracked again and tried to play that off as being somehow consistent with your stance even though it runs completely counter to it. You essentially just said that they would plug this well and think they would try to re-enter the formation through another well. Again, you moved from an irrational stance to a rational one. Why won’t you just admit that your several times repeated stance that they would turn this well into a producer is wrong? You’ve already moved to a rational alternative to that. Just admit that you were wrong. That’s an honorable thing to do. It makes you look more credible in the future as someone who can learn from their mistakes.
This has nothing to do with trusting BP, any lies they may have made, any conspiracies, or any dark secret board room. This has to do with your trustworthiness. You have made incorrect statements. It looks like you are even now agreeing that they were incorrect by moving away from them toward rational statements. Just admit that you were wrong, and in the future, do it more quickly. It is honestly a very good quality to be able to admit when you are wrong.
Just wait until BP sells their lease to a muslim group who wants to construct a ‘mosque of the sea’ on the spot. You’ll see some fireworks then, you betcha!
Deepwater Horizon Alarm System Was Partly Disabled Prior To Explosion, Technician Tells Congress | HuffPost Impact BP had the alarms turned off before the explosion. Makes perfect sense doesn’t it.
Lets make this easy on you. I believe that money is in back of everything BP is doing. I believe they are operating with an eye on the oil production. I don’t believe they will walk away from this enormous deposit. I am not privy to the behind the public discussions . But they have proven to be untrustworthy over and over. They took risks that caused this because they were driven by oil profits. Safety took a back seat to production. Nope. i don’t believe they have changed their attitude.
You may be sure that will be done, someday, and by some company other than BP. At present, it appears no one can see any way to extract the oil without further spillage.
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0723/bp-accused-silence-science-spill/ here uis BP trying to kill the science with money. They are hiring many scientists in universities with a proviso in the contract they can not discuss the gulf subject for 3 years. Buying silence. Why?
Well, BP did recently meet with the UAE sovereign wealth fund about raising some equity.
And how does anything that you just said relate to the fact that you won’t admit when you’re wrong? Let me make it easy for you. I will concede that BP’s board of directors is worse than Hitler, Stalin, and Mao Tse Tong combined; their corporate policy is worse than genocide, slavery, rape, and child molestation; and that they are probably planning on giving ass cancer to everyone on earth while simultaneously redistributing the wealth of all Democrats and giving it to Christians and Republicans.
Now that we have criticizing BP out of the way, would you mind addressing the two points that I have laid out over and over for you? I’m just asking you to be an adult and admit you are wrong.