Brad and Angelina to split

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I responded to this post because I come here to The Dope to mainly read the threads and post on rare occasion. I feel the info on this site is informative and for the most part the posters here seem to care about accuracy and fighting ignorance, and I felt that demonizing someone for things they neither said nor did is such an unDoper thing to do.

I have, admittedly, become fascinated with the polarizing effect on American women that this one particular celebrity divorce seems to have caused, and it is still something people get into heated arguments about even five years later. It is my opinion that the tabloid press exploits this because they know the idea of an evil dark-haired beauty sells. So really, I cannot blame tabloids for doing what tabloids do, but I feel there is really a double standard when it comes to Ms. Jolie and she has been unfairly cast in this role. There are celebs who do and get away with far worse, but they get a free pass. I will attempt to address some of your arguments below, and I am not sure how to do the quotes, so I apologize in advance I this post comes out all wonky.

Posted by MitzeKatze:
The hate- which is really too strong of a word I think- is easy to understand. It is the way that she and Brad got together.

Did you know that Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward were both married to other people when they met on a movie set and fell in love? They both quickly got divorced and married each other ASAP. I don’t think anyone held that against them for years after the fact. I don’t feel one person can be stolen from another, like a toy. If anything, Brad has hinted in a Charlie Rose interview and again in Esquire magazine that he and Jen were guilty of staying in the marriage too long. He said it had “run its course” and it was “at a deadend”. Yet, the public is quick to blame Angelina. Sounds like Brad and Jen had issues they should have dealt with but chose not to.

Posted by MitzeKatze:
The family that shouldn’t have formed.

Wow, that’s pretty harsh. The truth is, Angelina already had her own ideas about how she wanted to adopt her children, and years before Brad said she didn’t want to have children biologically. She already had Maddox, and had already started the process to adopt the child that would turn out to be Zahara before she and Brad got together. Brad, who said way back in the 90s that he wanted 6-8 children, was not trapped into this family. He wanted it as much as she did, and in a Reader’s Digest interview Angelina said that Brad is the one who changed her mind about bio kids, that he talked her into it. She said she discovered there was nothing in the world like being pregnant with the child of the man you love. Sure, Angie’s done some wild stuff, but she admits to all of it, has talked freely about it, and credits her family for the positive influence in her life. So I can’t agree this family shouldn’t have formed.

Posted by MitzeKatze:
Is he? Did he tell you that the last time y’all had lunch together or what? And does it matter? These are two people who put themselves and their relationship into the limelight.

We (those posting here at least) are just having fun speculating and gossiping. Nothing we say or believe is going to change a thing and won’t matter one whit to either Brad or Angelina. More importantly none of this has any effect at all on the children whose parents forced them into lives of public speculation as well.

No, he didn’t tell me that the last time we had lunch together, but he did say so on Charlie Rose, Oprah, and Larry King while doing press for Inglorious Basterds and Benjamin Button. If he says he’s happy, I guess he’s happy.

As for them putting their relationship in the spotlight, I would have to say no to that as well. They don’t give many interviews, and even then it is only when they have a movie to promote, and that is part of their jobs. Their kids are probably out in public less than any other celeb couple, but everytime they are, here come the bloggers talking about them “pimping” their kids, like they are supposed to dig a hole and live in it. The kids of Jen Garner, Halle Berry, Nicole Ritchie, Gwen Stefani, and J-lo are probably photographed much more. The only exception would be Suri Cruise probably gets about as much press and mean speculation. And oh, I know people want to rag on them for selling the baby pics to People mag, but the truth is ALL celebs sell their baby pics. The difference is they pocket money. J-lo got something like 6 million for her People cover of her twins, but she kept that money. Somehow, just because Brad and Angelina got more money and donated it, that is somehow evil. It baffles me.

Even worse are these horrible women on gossip sites who post the most vile and racist things about the Jolie-Pitt children. They call themselves fans of Jennifer Aniston, but I think she would be horrified if she knew about how they wish for Angie to crash her plane and die, for her children to be born deformed, and other things like that. There’s this British web site called Female First that is the worst of the lot as far as that kinda stuff goes. According to them Angelina is the Antichrist and responsible for all the evil in the world.

Posted by MitzeKatze:
She lost a husband who she was still in love with. That deserves sympathy in my book. Angelina (admittedly) contrived to seduce Brad and lure him away from the woman he vowed to love forever, that is a good reason to dislike her in my book. Jennifer Aniston did not just “get divorced” she was dumped hard and publicly. That does not happen to millions of other women, at least not on the same scale that it happened to her.

Well, if you go and read some of Jennifer’s old interviews from when she was married to Brad, she didn’t seem all that enamored of him, really. She complained about how she didn’t like his motorcycles, she belittled his interest in architecture, she was not supportive of his career, she disliked his taste in art and furniture, and said that if you could come and be her for a day, you would be the “most pissed-off person ever”. Brad has said that he went into therapy during their first year of marriage, and they hardly spent any time together. They seemed like two very mismatched people. Jen was/is very career oriented, and he wanted a big family. Angie has never said she “contrived to seduce Brad and lure him”. She did say she couldn’t wait to get to work every day, and they have both admitted they “fell in love” on the set, but all persons involved, including Jen A, have said there was no physical affair until after the separation, and by then Jen had already hooked up with Vince Vaughn. Doug Limon and cast and crew have all said they were always professional. So yes, you could say they are guilty of an emotional affair, but falling in love does not equate to “stealing” someone away from another. If the marriage was good, he wouldn’t have been attracted, and from what I can tell, it appears that Brad was the one who did the chasing…yet the public perceives it to all be Angelina’s fault, like Brad bears no responsibility in it. Anytime a marriage fails, two people are to blame, the two people in the marriage, so Jen is not blameless either, even though her publicist would like you to think so. Even Jen herself has said that she is neurotic, needy, and insecure. I can be happy for the “cheaters” because hey, Brad went from a girl who hated bikes to one who will jump on one and go riding with him, which I happen to think is cool.

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Das Neue Blatt is about the German equivalent of the National Enquirer, so take that for what it’s worth. We lived in Germany for a number of years, so that is my opinion of it. They are not above making up quotes and interviews, just like Star, In Touch, etc… This interview has been debunked on fan sites as being totally bogus. Angie’s last inertview was last year during Oscar time, with the exception of a few soundbytes from the Inglorious Basterds premiere. If it is not in Vogue, Vanity Fair, Esquire, etc…then take it with a mountain of salt.

The whole “blood vial” thing is also largely urban legend. She was on Larry King when she and BBT were married, and she showed what it actually was, which was a locket with a piece of cotton inside it with a dried drop of blood on it. So much for this vial of blood.

Also, if you go and look at the actual video from the Academy Awards, it was BBT who said “We just f***ed in the car”. Angelina didn’t say a word, he said that, yet it has been repeated over and over that she “bragged” about having sex in the car with him.

This supposed “make out session” with her brother on a previous Aceademy Awards night consisted of one closed-mouth on-the-lips kiss. How is that a make out session? I kiss my mom, grandpa, and sister on the lips all the time. I guess I am making out with them. Now granted she did hold the kiss a couple of seconds long enough to make people squirm, and she did say she was “so in love with my brother right now”, which was a poor choice of words, but this story has morphed into a full-on tongue-fest groping incident that simply did not happen. People tell it like she threw him down in the aisle and dry-humped him. There’s a very sweet pic of Michael Douglas kissing his dad Kirk on the lips…are they making out? Different families have different ways of showing affection.

The situation of her father is something that none of us is privy to, and we should not judge her about, we know nothing about what went on. She did mention last year that they were talking again and that he had seen the kids, but they were keeping it all out the press. Aniston is still estranged from her own mother. Should you judge her for that? Probably not, so Angelina deserves the same.

These are things that have been widely exaggerated in the tabloid press and people take it as fact. Angelina doesn’t address these things, because as she told Ann Curry, “People can love me or hate me, but at the end of the day I have better things to do that to worry about what other people think of me.” I admire her for that. I wish she would do more to clear up these misperceptions, but it must irritate me more than her, so good on her if she can handle it.

As I said before, you can’t steal a person, and you can’t make someone love you if they don’t.

The most distressing thing about all of this is that in the past you would never have legit new outlets quoting from Star, In Touch, and Life & Style, and now that is happening. Am I the only one who sees something wrong with citing them as a reliable source? If you throw 2 tons of Jello against the wall, some of it bound to stick, but what about all the 99.9% that fell off? Tabloids are wrong most of the time, but people will buy the fiction as long it is about someone they dislike. They lie over and over, and their journalistic approach is to tell one outrageous tale after another until they get the celeb to respond and refute. It legitimizes them when they get someone riled up enough to sue. Brad and Angelina have opted not to play, therefore they rarely address rumors.

If you check, you can see that this has now been refuted, but probably only because you the women on The View, and Kathie Lee Gifford this morning reporting this as fact…I bet they won’t say a word tomorrow about it not being true afterall.

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I am responding because it was directed at my post, but I have to tell you I only skimmed it…I think you are taking this way to seriously.

I don’t care about Paul Newman or anyone else which is frankly quite off topic. When Paul Newman starts serially breaking up relationships on purpose (as Angelina admits to both this time and with Billy Bob Thorton) then maybe you’ll have an apt comparison, but I don’t buy that everything she does is hunky-dory just because someone else has done something similar.

I don’t believe celebrity interviews- they are going to say what they want the public to believe at any given time. It’s all PR. Beyond that…I have to say, “so what?” Brad says he’s happy…yay for him. He also denied he was having an affair with Angelina. He has shown that he lies, why should I believe him this time? And beyond that why would I care if he is happy? The point of my question, “Did he tell you that the last time y’all had lunch, or what?” Was to point out that you don’t know anything any different or more personally than we do. You want to believe one interview and deny another, that’s your choice, but don’t get all high and mighty about it because you are not privy to any information that the rest of us aren’t.

I am sorry that you seem to be taking this so personally and rushing to the defense of these people, but they don’t need defending and no one is attacking them.

This (this thread) is just harmless celebrity gossip, something that both Brad and Angelina signed up for when they sought celebrity. There is nothing here to get worked up over and there won’t be when they eventually do break up- and they will, and it will probably be because Angelina found the next love of her life.

ETA: I just read this sentence:

That is the most ridiculous thing I have heard all day. Cheating is all good I guess as long as you like to ride motorcycles…ummm…okay then! So let’s change the standard wedding vows from, “'Til death do us part” to “until someone comes along who will ride with me”.

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[quote=“MitzeKatze, post:39, topic:526201”]

Well there’s that…and the way she “got” Billy Bob Thorton, and the blood vials, and the making out with her brother, and the way she has dealt with her father (and the public statements she has made regarding the same) and …well I could probably do this for a while. :wink: Although I do not hate her (I don’t even know her!) there are no shortages of reasons why some do (or like me just dislike her and have no respect for her) and I am confused as to why anyone would be confused by it. :wink:
MitzeKatze, I understand your opinion, and please realize I am just looking for honest debate here, so let’s discuss this… I have often heard women bring up this whole Billy Bob/Laura Dern thing, and I actually found out that yes, it is true that Laura did say that she and BBT were engaged and the next thing she knew he was with Angelina. Well, to me, isn’t that on BBT? And Laura Dern is one to talk. She got pregnant by Ben Harper while he was married to someone else.

And you mentioned that Jen desreves everyone’s sympathy because she got dumped, well what about what BBT did to Angelina? He left her because he told her he didn’t want to be a father, this AFTER he adopted Maddox with her. So Angelina got dumped and left to raise a child on her own, no less. To make matters worse, BBT went on to father a child with another girlfriend. Looks like BBT just didn’t want to be a father to kid that wasn’t his. Dildo. Yet where was the sympathy for Angelina? She didn’t whine about it in the press or go on Oprah’s couch and cry. She got herself together and kept on keeping on.

And what about Julia Roberts? She really did break up a marriage to get her husband, but everyone loves her.

Drew Barrymore and Kate Hudson go through men like M&Ms but Angelina is still a slut.

Reese and Jake got together before her divorce was final, but nobody called their morals into question.

The double standard goes on and on.

All of the reason’s people cite about disliking Angelina are based on behavior from ten years ago. Even she has sais she was messed up and self-destructive, but the love of a little Cambodian boy changed her life. What’s so horrible about that?

I think alot of women project their own fears and insecurities onto her, and it really has more to do with that than anything else.

And lastly, Jen A has has no less than three unsuccessful relationships since Brad, so maybe that says something about her as well.

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You do realize that this is on film, right? And you are wrong, it was definitely an “open mouth” kiss. I don’t have time to track down the video of it, because I am just walking out the door, but there are plenty of pictures and documentation of the incident. That along with statements made by both of them pretty much solidify it as a “make out session”. Defend her all you like, but please let’s stick to the truth here and what we all saw with our own eyes.

If you check, you can see that was acknowledged in this very thread right around post number 5.

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Mitzekatze,
I don’t know where you are getting this from that Angelina admits to serially breaking up relationships, I have never read anywhere.

And yeah, this is just celebrity gossip, but why can’t it at least be based in fact? I just hate tabloids with a passion. And even though I think Jen A is major PR manipulator, I don’t believe anything about her that comes from In Touch, either.

And if you don’t believe celeb interviews, then that means you can’t buy into Jen A’s version of it, either.

And my comment about the motorcycles just meant that sometimes people are better suited for each other. I think you took that way too seriously, actually.

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[quote=“MitzeKatze, post:45, topic:526201”]

You do realize that this is on film, right? And you are wrong, it was definitely an “open mouth” kiss. I don’t have time to track down the video of it, because I am just walking out the door, but there are plenty of pictures and documentation of the incident. That along with statements made by both of them pretty much solidify it as a “make out session”. Defend her all you like, but please let’s stick to the truth here and what we all saw with our own eyes.

Yes, I realize it is on film, I have seen it, and their mouths were closed as I saw it. Maybe it looked like more because they both have really big lips…I dunno. You see one thing I see another. Fine. I guess that is why eye-witness accounts are not reliable in court, but hey, it’s all good.

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Okay, I’m back but still in a rush, so if I miss anything I apologize in advance.

Sure I will discuss this, but you will have to understand that I do not have the emotional investment that you seem to. I don’t really care very much about any of it and it is all just gossip to me.

I do not love Jennifer Aniston, I do not know her, I do like her public persona better than Angelina & Brad (as a couple especially) but I have no real interest in any of them beyond the curiosity and gossipy celebrity watching. None of this affects me in any way and nothing I say or think affects them.

But here’s the rub: what happened to Angelina was much what she had done to others and continued to do afterward. She reaped what she sewed, just desserts, karma’s a bitch…however you want to say it. Sure she deserves sympathy as the dumped woman, but that sympathy is mitigated by her own actions both before and since.

Number one, no one (here at least) has said Angelina is a slut. Secondly, those other actresses are not who we are talking about. I dismiss out of hand the argument that as long as someone else has done the same thing (or something worse) then it is okay, so none of their actions have any bearing on the topic at hand. If you want to discuss Julia Roberts, Drew Barrymore, Kate Hudson, or Reese and Jake, I’d be happy to oblige but it is off topic in a thread about Brad and Angelina splitting up. As an aside, I actually went to high school for a little while with Drew Barrymore (while she was in Munich filming Babes in Toyland) so I could really lay some gossip on you about her, but it would be about her when she was like 13. :wink:

Nothing at all wrong with that. If her continuing behavior (5 years ago and less) didn’t contradict her statements.

And what fears or insecurities would those be? And how is disliking her morals, ethics, and behavior in any way related to those fears?

Again, that really isn’t relevant. This isn’t a contest to see who can do the worst or whose better, Jen or Angelina or anything like that. I am not understanding the hostility toward Jennifer than you display. I am sympathetic toward her situation and I think she is prettier and seems nicer than Angelina, but that is as far as it goes, I am not defending her or anything she may have done. I don’t know her outside of her public persona.

Honestly, I cannot cite it right now. I do not keep track of what celebrity gossip I read where or in which interview what was revealed. I am sure there is more than one source or I would not remember it. I read celebrity gossip only occasionally and have no vested interest (emotional or personal) so I rarely remember details. That I remember these tells me that I have read it frequently. I will google it up a little later…still in a bit of a rush here, my kids are waiting on me. :wink:

It really is, at least in this thread. The problem with “fact” in the celebrity gossip world is that it is hard to discern. The words that come from celebrities mouths cannot be counted on as “facts” because everything they say in public (or interviews) is with PR in mind. You dismiss some interviews altogether as “made up” yet cite interviews as proof of your arguments, you can’t really have it both ways. All celebrity gossip should be assumed to be a lie or half-truth even when it comes from them, and all of it taken with a grain of salt.

Ummm…okay…did I say that I did? There are three sides to every break-up story. His, hers and the truth.

And my comments meant that there is no excuse for cheating. If Brad found his soul mate and realized it wasn’t his spouse, he should have ended the relationship if necessary and addressed the issue, THEN taken up with whomever…If Angelina found her soul mate and knew that he was married she should have backed off, waited until he was available THEN taken up a relationship. As it was, they decided to sneak around, deny it, then publicly announce it despite the humiliation it would bring to someone who Brad should have respected even if he was no longer in love with. There is never a good reason to cheat, period.

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Hey, thanks for the reply.

And truly, I am mainly only this vested in it because I am just floored that the likes of CNN, msnbc, The Today Show, etc…all reported this rumor as fact, something that originated with News of the World, for crying out loud. In my mind there is a definite line between the tabloid press and real journalism, and if I can’t depend on the major news outlets to check for credibility on silly stuff like this, then how can I depend on them to tell me about the stuff that matters? Are they all so quick to have a story first that reliability goes right out the window? Jesus please us!

What others? I know you said Laura Dern, and I don’t buy that, I put it on BBT. And of course you feel she did it to Jen, but who else? I don’t know of anybody.

[QUOTE=Number one, no one (here at least) has said Angelina is a slut. Secondly, those other actresses are not who we are talking about. I dismiss out of hand the argument that as long as someone else has done the same thing (or something worse) then it is okay, so none of their actions have any bearing on the topic at hand. If you want to discuss Julia Roberts, Drew Barrymore, Kate Hudson, or Reese and Jake, I’d be happy to oblige but it is off topic in a thread about Brad and Angelina splitting up. As an aside, I actually went to high school for a little while with Drew Barrymore (while she was in Munich filming Babes in Toyland) so I could really lay some gossip on you about her, but it would be about her when she was like 13. ;)[/QUOTE]

True, nobody said “slut” but it was said that she has no morals, etc… I just think its not always fair to blame the woman.

What has she done that is wild and outrageous in the last five years? From what I can tell she has been pretty busy traveling, filming movies, working for the UN, and getting stuffed full of Pitt DNA. Sure, sure, all I am looking at are print interviews from Vogue, Vanity Fair, Esquire, Reader’s Digest, People, and Marie Claire, or video interviews with Ann Curry, Larry King, or others like that. Of course according to the tabs, she has been up to all kinds of dastardly deeds, including about six pregancies (one that resulted in twin girls :rolleyes:) and she and Brad have broken up about 487 times. Anything that comes from In Touch, Life & Style, Star, NE, or Us mag is a lie as far as I am concerned, so I ignore those no matter who they are talking about.

I think the yellow press has tapped into a nerve where American women are concerned, and for some reason throwing crap all over Angelina Jolie sells. People want to read negative things about her because there is this idea that she deserves to suffer for all eternity I guess. As long as it sells, they’ll keep writing it. I just won’t be buying it.

I was just using those other examples to back up my point that there is a double standard going on. As for the actual subject of the thread, it seems Brad and Angelina are sorta damed of they do and damned if they don’t. If they go out, they are accused of “putting on a show” or “faking their realtionship”, so they must be breaking up. If they are not seen, they are breaking up. If one goes somewhere without the other, they are breaking up. It is crazy, especially when you consider that other couples are not held to this level of scrutiny. I think even if they had sex in the street there would still be a certain group who would say they aren’t together. Meh.

I cannot fault you for that, afterall, I am working pretty much from memory myself. Totally agree with you on this last part!

Again, not to whip a dead horse, but from the way I read it, they did wait to start up anything (physical anyway) until after he was separated. They worked on Mr. and Mrs. Smith for over a year, and the last part of it was filmed after the separation and the divorce was filed. But truly none of us knows the timeline, so yes, it is all speculation.

Thanks ;)!

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We’re in the denial stage of the rumours now - in six months to a year we’ll get the news story that yes, they are indeed splitting. These things seem to follow a certain pattern.

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Can’t they just return the kids to the props department?

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Everything I’ve heard about Brad Pitt indicates that he is a poster child for being an asshole’s asshole.

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I wouldn’t count any chickens just yet. They have had to issue denials many times in the past when the rumors get out of hand, and this was definitely one of those times. So I guess you could say they have been in the “denial stage” for five years now, and if I had a penny for every post I’ve seen on the internet that gives them “six more months”, I could indulge in a day at the spa. They’ll be sending their kids off to college, and there will still be these predictions of “six more months and they are ovah!”

I really do not know which is worse, the skeezy rag press that prints one outrageous lie after another about top-tier celebs as a ploy to get them to answer to the lie, or the stalwart contigent of Bitter Bettys in the world who are practically salivating at the thought of them breaking up.

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sulamith, I wanted to thank you for your answer to my post. Given that you lived in Germany and have first-hand experience with Das Neue Blatt, I’ll take your word for its credibility and will take with a grain of salt what they claim Angelina said. Still, I have to say it seems unlikely to me that a publication such as that would claim a first-hand interview that never took place, so I’m taking with a grain of salt also that the interview never happened. :wink:

Anyway, thanks for taking the time to compose your response. I see from your profile that you’ve been around here a long time but have a very low post count. You should post more often; you write and express yourself very well.

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That’s what I was thinking. They’ve been splitting since they got together.

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If, in a parallel universe I wasn’t happily married with kids of my own, and I bumped into Angelina in a bookstore and she dragged me back to her place to show me her “O” face, I don’t think I’d be able to participate until I first got an answer to the question “so, that thing with your brother- what the hell was that all about, really?”

Also, I’ve always suspected that most people don’t necessarily think she’s hot, but she has two things going for her: (i) a mysterious, sultry quality, and (ii) DSL. (that has nothing to do with broadband internet)

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Thank you, Starving Artist, I appreciate your reply.

I was also pretty shocked myself to discover a few years ago when I took a closer look at the whole tabloid/papparazzi world that these publications, do indeed just fabricate interviews at times. Sometimes they will cobble together an “exclusive” from old quotes from multiple sources, and sometimes it is just pulled right out of their backsides, especially the Fleet Street British crowd.

Here is a video that might appeal to some of ya’ll. It is pretty balanced in that it says positve and negative things. It does a pretty good job of explaining the tabloid appeal of scrutinizing this relationship so much. There is commentary from Marc Malkin from The Insider who is pro Jen A, and there are also remarks from Ian Drew of Us mag who is pro-Angelina. Tt is from a few years ago, so the stuff they say at the end about B&A not showing any PDAs is no longer true, because they have since done that.

Anyhoo, give it a gander if you like (hope it works):

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OK, I’m asking for a cite. NOt that I don’t believe you, Annie-Xmas; quite the opposite. I DO need something good to read. I got stiffed when I asked for some good dirt on Christopher Reeve, so you bet that I’m gonna hold out for the good stuff!

Thanks,

hh

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You might find this article interesting, sulamith. According to Kourtney Kardashian, OK not only fabricated an interview with her that never took place, but they photoshopped a picture of her to make it look like she’d lost of weight that in reality she hadn’t (in an apparent attempt to persuade readers to purchase the magazine in order to learn how to lose weight with her alleged weight loss regimen).

I’ve long known that magazines and tabloids can say pretty much anything they want when characterizing celebrities, but I didn’t know that they could get away with fabricating interviews that never took place.

So, chalk one up for your side. :smiley:

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HAha!! Yeah, I did hear some buzz about this, and seriously if they would do this to someone on the lower rungs of the fame ladder like Kardashian, imagine what they would do to get the attention of the A-listers? Usually the tactic is to print a lie or some fake quotes, and many celebs will then issue a statement refuting it and possibly threatening to sue…and then viola! The tab now actually DOES have legit quotes from the celeb, and they can claim another exclusive. Mission accomplished.

It is a viscious cycle that a few stars are opting out of participating in, because you almost need to pay a full-time staffer just to monitor all of it for you and issue a never-ending cycle of denials that usually don’t do any good anyway because people just think what they want to. I guess after a while they wind up feeling pretty angry at being manipulated like that by people who make so much money off these sensationalized stories. I know I would. Of course the price of ignoring it is that there is potload of false information out there about you.

I guess that is why I became intrigued enough to follow Brad and Angelina because from the beginning it seemed they buttoned down their camp, surrounded themselves with a few trusted staff, and decided not address these publications no matter what. They both said in separate interviews that they knew their truth and they were going to concentrate on living their lives and that they did not pay any attention to it. Brad said “We don’t allow it in the house”, and that Angelina usually likes to stay “blissfully ignorant” about the weekly stories. I thought that was pretty remarkable and shows alot of fortitude. It would drive me bananas, but I have to admit that another reason I have followed it is because I seriously want to see how outlandish the stories get before their hand is forced and they really do have to address it. This latest go-round is getting pretty nasty.