How 'bout they start Favre and a rookie O-line, get that pesky streak out of the way at least 
Favre is making an ass of himself, but it would be hard not to consider Green Bay better off with him then without him.
If they are fed up with him enough, it sounds like they can trade him to the Jets. There was actually a fan rally to request this.
As a **Giants ** fan, I guess I hope the Packers do whatever is worse for their team. 
I, for one, think the Packers should tell Brett he’s the bench warmer. Yes, this year he might be better, but I don’t really think Aaron is gonna get better waiting another year. They have to commit to their next starting quarterback and play him, even if it means two years of ramping up to speed for the NFL.
I don’t think Favre is selfish; I think he runs his life about like he plays football: without much thought for what comes next.
If they make Favre a backup, they’re going to hear it from the fans all year long. It would also be an exceptionally incompetent way to coach a football team. You have to put your team in the best position to win. It would be inexcusable not to start Favre.
As a Bears fan, I’m continuing to love the turmoil in the Cheeze State. This is absolutely a lose-lose situation for the Green Bay team*.
*The team to which I would normally refer as the “(Fudge) Packers”, but I’m feeling charitable.
Because I’m a nice guy.
Pfft.
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We don’t actually know if Favre would be better. AFAIK, he turns 39 during the season; his body has to break down eventually, and the longer this goes on (and 18 seasons is a pretty long time) the higher the probability that that happens. In any case, Favre was great last year- but what if the Favre of the six-ish previous years shows up? You know, the one who looked very, very ordinary.
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Bill Polian, one of the smartest front-office guys in the NFL, once said, “If you listen to the fans, you’ll end up sitting with the fans” or something along those lines. Mortgaging the future for this season- and let’s not kid ourselves; nobody thinks this can go on again next year- is a horrible idea; the Packers weren’t the best team in the NFC last year, let alone the league, and they’ve done nothing to improve in the short term.
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Remember what I said earlier in this thread- if Favre starts this season, the Packers lose Aaron Rodgers.
I’ve never quite understand how fans got off telling players when and how they should retire. If Favre still likes playing football and making lots of money, what position am I in that I should tell him he shouldn’t. I don’t think I’d want someone to tell me I need to leave my job because I’m not as good as I once was. If Favre isn’t good enough to play in the NFL anymore, then no team will desire him. Clearly this isn’t the case. He is still probably one on the top ten qbs in the league. Sure he didn’t handle the situation perfectly, but it isn’t like he is ordering the media to cover the story. The media covers it because it is an easy story, and people care. You may think people shouldn’t care, but clearly they do.
This doesn’t mean the Packers are required to play the guy. They can bench him, though that would seem like a significant waste of resources. I’d probably play him. The odds of Rodgers even being as good as Farve is now I’d put at somewhere less then 50%. That isn’t something personal against Rodgers, just the high failure of young QBs. Might as well take another shot while you can.
I don’t think anyone is telling Favre when and how to retire. We’re just telling Favre to make a damn decision- or, having made a decision, to man up and stand by it instead of all this media whoring.
Changing one’s mind is unmanly?
I hope he returns as the starting QB for the Pack this year. The past few years of of sports casters kissing his ass, calling him “the little boy who just loves to play the game”, and his do-gooder imagery was getting old not just for rival teams fans but Packer fans as well.
It will fun to root for him this year as the new Evil Brett Favre. Like evil Superman or dark Spiderman.
He’s waffled repeatedly during this process, not to mention the very-public “will I retire or won’t I?” he performed over each of the last two or three offseasons.
Okay, being indecisive is unmanly then?
I don’t see how the Packers can keep both QBs. I still think they will trade Favre, probably to the Vikings. They were perfectly willing to go without him before, now they will add a second round pick or so to go without him.
For what it is worth, Favre knows how football works. He has to know the way he waffled was a detriment to the team with which he wants to win. Once he made the decision and the draft happened, he should have been prepared to live with his decision.
Now on the other hand, I understand him changing his mind and wanting to come back. The Packers have the option of trading him and this whole thing has been blown out of proportion. The Packers should trade him and he needs to understand that the Bears and Vikings for good reason cannot be the trade partners. That is fair to the Packers and Favre. This whole thing has turned into a media circus and never should have gotten this bad.
If they figure out a reasonable solution, it should all go away by the time the season starts except for the announcers who will talk about it in every game Favre plays and every Green Bay game.
Traditionally or stereotypically or whatever, yes.
And fans do tell players when to retire all the time. “Think of your Legacy, even though we ourselves will ignore it within a year of your retirement! We would rather have an average or unknown player than a formerly great player of somewhat diminished skills,” they aver, “even though we will immediately determine that your replacement cannot live up to you!”
It’s one of my least favorite fan habits. Telling somebody when to quit their job just strikes me as unbearably entitled.
Of course not. However, broadcasting your indecision to the world like Pamela Anderson deciding whether to take back philandering Tommy Lee is unmanly.
If the current retirement spat was taking place in a vacuum, I wouldn’t have much to say about it. Michael Jordan unretired, and I’d certainly not begrudge Favre the same choice. It isn’t, though; it takes place against the backdrop of the same tiresome bullshit last year, and the year before, and the year before that…
Put another way, it’s unmanly for an NFL quarterback to pretend he’s Meryl fucking Streep in Sophie’s Choice.
Let me put this into perspective for you: Brett Favre is deciding whether to play a game or play at being a farmer.
The Packers are talking to the Vikings about a trade.
If Favre comes to the Vikings, I’m going out and getting a purple #4 jersey and if I can’t get to Lambeau for that monday night opener between the Packers and vikings, I’m going to find the nearest Packer bar. The agony of Packer fans when Favre runs out that tunnel onto Lambeau in a purple jersey is going to be too sweet to miss.
I thought you hated Favre with a white hot hate? How could you buy his jersey, just to rub it in the face of Green Bay fans?
BTW, are you sure you would not be risking a beat down if you went through with this plan. I know obnoxious Red Sox fans in Yankees bars and obnoxious Yankee fans in Red Sox bars often do not fair well.
I’m really surprised that the Packers are backing down this badly. Trading Favre to the Vikings is the worst thing they could possibly do for their team short of releasing Favre outright. Give him the starting job, hold a competition, plant him on the bench and tell him to live with it, or trade him to the Jets. Any of those would be good options for your team, given that Favre intends to rescind his retirement.
Bowing to Favre’s pressure and sending him exactly where he wants to be, where he can screw with you twice a year, where he improves your rival… this just makes no sense at all.
If the Vikings are willing to give up a first- or second-round pick to rent a quarterback who may or may not be any good- and for a year, or two at most- joke’s on them. Does anybody really believe that adding Brett Favre makes the Vikings a Super Bowl favorite?
If so, I have some dotcom stock you might be interested in.