Bringing a narwhal to a knife fight - London "terrorist" attack

I haven’t seen a thread about this yet, much to my surprise, but in case you missed it, here is the Wikipedia summary (because I’m too lazy to do my own recap):

I’m guessing several of you did the same doubletake I did. Yes, that’s right - a narwhal tusk. Despite being stabbed three times, a Polish chef at Fishmongers’ Hall pulled a five-foot narwhal tusk off the wall (which was there for decoration) and chased the attacker, pushing him away with it to keep him away from anyone while another bystander sprayed the attacker with a fire extinguisher to disorient him.

While crazy extremists remain a blight on civilised society and I can only express condolences to the families of the two people who died from their stab wounds (and the three others, including Lucasz the chef, who were wounded), one has to marvel at the sheer grit of the general public in this country who up with this sort of shit will not put. Defeating a terrorist with a narwhal tusk is frankly the best thing I’ve seen since the attempted 2007 attack on Glasgow airport, where despite the would-be terrorist driving a jeep filled with flammable gas cylinders and, more importantly, despite the terrorist being literally on fire, a baggage handler saw fit to run up to him anyway and kick him in the groin so hard he tore a tendon in his foot. Because that’s how they roll in Glasgow.

The tusks certainly look lethal.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mnn.com/earth-matters/animals/stories/amp/researchers-find-purpose-narwhals-tusk

Good choice for a weapon grabbed off a wall.

I admire the grit that these people showed against the terrorist. It certainly helped save lives.

There’s a good picture here of the combined tusk and fire extinguisher defense, which ought to be visible above the paywall line.

I followed your link and saw this bit:

The idea of the Queen awarding a medal for kicking someone in the balls made me laugh. The quotes from Smeaton’s TV interviews are priceless as well.

The guy who kicked the burning terrorist in the nuts was a taxi driver called Alex McIlveen. Smeaton usually gets the credit though.

I stand corrected. As indeed did the person who injured their foot kicking a burning terrorist in the groin.

I watched the news clip of the battle of improvised weapons against the London terrorist. I cheered every single time!

The fire extinguisher was brilliant. It had the added feature that the extinguisher itself could be used to bonk the attacker over the head.

But the narwhal tusk! The creativity, the cachet! Perhaps people will be curious enough to research narwhals, and discover this “unicorn whale.”

Hooray for Londoners for fighting back!
~VOW

The Scots were legendary fighters. The Scottish units in WWII were very respected.

I’m wondering about the end of the confrontation. They had him restrained and disarmed, they had multiple officers on the scene, and then they shot him?

My question, as well.

Yes, It was reported that he had a fake explosive vest on. I’m pretty squeamish about shooting rather than capturing alive, even when he had already killed but in those circumstances I think the risks are too great to allow him enough time to trigger it.

The fact that it turned out to fake is irrelevant.

One of the intervening civilians said in an interview that the perp had one knife basically duct-taped to his hand, and I don’t know when that was taken away from him (before or after being shot).

There was also the fake bomb vest the perp was wearing. I’m not sure when they discovered it was fake (probably after the cops shot him).

Bottom line, it’s not clear that they disarmed him before shooting him.

He had a knife taped to at least one hand. Was the taped knife gone before they shot him? The way I read it, they had gotten the un-taped knife away but someone was just restraining the taped knife arm.

I believe it’s standard protocol where there is a bomb vest involved - there’s no guarantee it’s fake without close inspection, and the risks of close inspection (to both public and police) are too great. It’s a horrible necessity as things currently stand.

…must’ve created one hell of a headache for the poor health care worker who had to code their injury under ICD-10 guidelines. :smack:

I’m sort of confused why the OP felt the need to put the word terrorist in “scare quotes” but the narwhal tusk makes for an extra feel-good story. :slight_smile:

That does make it more reasonable, and I certainly don’t expect them to determine that it was fake in the heat of the moment. But even if it were a real bomb, they don’t know how it’s triggered. I’d be worried about a deadman’s switch.

Because he had a fake vest, mostly. I mean, you can still carry out a terrorist attack with knives but it’s rather pathetic.

I think the calculation goes along the lines of…

-if it is a deadman switch and we shoot him we are fucked
-if it is a deadman switch and we don’t shoot him we are fucked
-if it is a manual trigger and we don’t shoot him we are fucked
-if it is a manual trigger and we shoot him we may not be fucked

The only real chance to not be fucked (assuming a real vest and a real intention to use it) involves shooting the terrorist.

It was also reported that he pulled back his jacket to show the bomb vest, indicating, I suppose, that he was neither subdued nor compliant. Under those circumstances I can understand why he was shot.

FYI the tusk is technically a tooth (Narwhal - Wikipedia). Definitely a “cool” improvised weapon

Brian