Bah.
When Buffy died the first time she lost the mystical title of Slayer, but continues to act as the Slayer. It was Kendra’s death that triggered Faith’s promotion to Slayer status. Buffy dying a second time doesn’t mean crap for triggering any more Slayers.
I liked the ep. But when they kicked her out of the house and nominated Faith I started to get a little scared. Kennedy seemed super gung-ho on Faith taking over. They all know that Caleb at this point seems unstoppable. I started to wonder if maybe Kennedy wants Faith killed so that the power passes along. So send her up against Caleb and wait for the Quickening.
If we end up with a spin-off series featuring any of the SiT’s I’m gonna stake Joss myself. If its Kennedy I’ll just stake myself.
Huh, I was wondering why the band was unusually good…
The Gaspode:
I’m speculating.
sturmhauke:
According to whom? Unprecedented actions have unprecedented consequences.
According to me, of course. Obviously we don’t know yet, but if it turns out your way I will have (more) foul things to say about the writers.
Ep was okay but the thing that pissed me off was kicking her out of HER house. I agree that Buffy was cracked to think about taking Caleb on again - but since almost all of those people in that house wouldn’t have a place to eat, sleep & be safe, they were way out of line (even Dawn, who doesn’t pay a single bill) to tell Buffy to get out of her own *$%%DGGFgfDGF@! house to plan strategy (If I had been Buffy, there would have been a whole lot of ass-kicking going on - just for the lack of respect). That little SIT bitch saying “The witch is dead” would have gotten her teeth knocked down her throat.:mad:
Also, Anya’s speech - Waaaay out of line. I think that Buffy has earned her powers over and over again. It’s not like having a talent for vengeance.:wally
P.S. She does seem to be overly concerned with Spike these days. It’s rather disturbing.
Sticking my head in to correct my guess from last week that Chao Ahn, Foreign Language Comic Relief SIT, died. She was among the crew at the house this week. So it must have been some other straight-haired brunette SIT that got offed during the vineyard siege.
Crap. That means more “comedy”, huh Audry? 
I’ve been giving this episode some thought and while some non-essential dialogue was interupted by storm warnings no plot development was cut into.
I didn’t particularly like the episode and I think that there was some corner cutting to get things to where they are now. This fills me with some hope, that ME has something really cool planned and now it is ready. All the dominos are set up and in the next episode they start getting knocked down. The real problem with this season as a whole and with the episodes within it is that there has been very little pay-off. I’m willing to extend the show a lot of slack in terms of setting up for its finale episodes. So basically I’m reserving judgement of this episode for what comes next.
Additionally I’m hoping the preview was UPN’s doing and that really it isn’t the focus of the episode.
See, it didn’t bother me that Buffy had to leave. Besides the fact that she’s been a total bitca all season, she, if her past is any indication, could never have followed Faith’s lead in anything. She’d just get in the way and whine. I, for one, applaud the group for finally realizing that they weren’t the problem, Buffy was.
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*Originally posted by Krokodil *
**Right after the previews, my first reaction was “Wow, I didn’t know Giles was with Interpol. Cool!” Followed ten seconds later with “Oh.”
During that scene, I kept waiting for Willow to intone, “This is not the droid you’re looking for,” and Andrew to yell “Cut!”
Comparing restoring Xander’s eye to regrowing her own skin or raising Buffy doesn’t make sense to me. In the former she was simply accelrating a process that would have happened naturally. Eyes don’t regrow. Willow didn’t personally raise Buffy. She asked Osiris to intervene, was tested and had her supplication granted. Which is not to say that Willow can’t do it but personally I’d rather it didn’t happen. Actions have consequences IRL and I’m all about having that reflected in fiction.
I completely agree with you, but my guess would be that Xander will eventually get a new eye somehow–my guess would be some sort of mystical orb, so that he can see and see. May not happen during the three eps remaining, but if there’s cross-over, I think its a good possibility. Then, perhaps, he might actually be useful for something other than fixing that dammed window. If, however, this doesn’t come to pass, I can’t see him doing all that well–precisely what use is a carpenter with no depth perception? And since he, like the Buffster, has no other skills… well, I don’t fancy his chances. He’d end up sponging off of Anya or something.
According to a number of sites including this one if the eye is lost after one has had binocular vision for a long time the loss of depth perception is not great because one learns to judge distances from other visual cues. So he could still function as a carpenter, and he absolutely could function as a foreman which is what he’s been this season.
Or Willow could magik one of Caleb’s eyes into Xander’s head for a rousing Old Testament revenge Moment.
I kind of like that idea, actually.
A carpenter doesn’t have to have depth perception; just a good measuring tape, square and pencil.
Some questions occurred to me while watching this ep (which, like the rest of you, I didn’t much care for):
1: Why did the cops go homicidal on Faith? “It’s the Hellmouth” isn’t good enough for me.
Where did Clem get that car? Does he have a driver’s license? An income? He’s a demon, for Hod’s sake, and this isn’t the L.A. of Angel where demons are assimilated into society.
So, what was the trap that EvilMal and TFE set up Buffy for? Was it to bring her back to the wine cellar? Can we assume that it failed, since Buffy couldn’t talk the others into going?
I was sitting in class Tuesday night, when I suddenly realized that I forgot, yet again, to set the VCR to tape Buffy.
And I didn’t care.
Okay, partly that’s because thanks to Gaspode (The Coolest Man in Sweden) I now know where to get them online. But mostly, I’m just no longer engaged in the show or any of the characters on it. And tonights episode went a long way to turning me from apathetic to outright dislike for almost the entire cast. I’m pissed at the Scoobies for turning on her like that, and I’m pissed at Buffy for sitting there and taking it. I’ll give Xander a partial pass on the grounds that you’re entitled to a little bitterness the day after someone roots around in your eye-socket with their thumb, but the behavior from the rest of them was just inexcusable.
Admittedly, her plan of going back to the vineyard and wandering around in search of a power source that a) they don’t know how to identify b) they don’t know how to destroy and c) might not even exsist was incredibly stupid. Although they didn’t exactly give her much of a chance to make her case for it. But outside of that, where are all the bad decisions Buffy has been making? Where are her string of failures that necessitates this mutiny? She’s single handedly killed every monster of the week they’ve met so far, including the supervamp, without losing a single person. She permanently sealed the… well, the seal. Up until last week, she’s kept every SIT she’s found alive. The single exception killed herself. She makes one bad move, where she runs into an enemy that’s far more powerful than she could have possible suspected, and all of a sudden she’s Captain Bligh and Dawn is Fletcher Christian? Bull.
And kicking her out of the house? She’s the single strongest fighter in the group. They’re all in incredible danger (at least, that’s what the writers keep telling us: I’m not really seeing much evidence for it up on the screen). So what do they do? They throw her out of the house to fend fer herself! Are they trying to get Buffy killed, or just themselves?
The worst part is, Buffy takes it! Where the hell is her spirit? Last time this happened, in Season Four, at least she showed some spine. Remember “I guess we know why there are no ancient prophecies about the Slayer and her friends.”? Remember the huge fight in the second episode of season two, when everyone got on her case about running away? Where the hell is her fire, dammit?
When Anya started in eith that “You think you’re better than everyone,” crap, Buffy should have turned on her and said, "Better than everyone? I don’t know about that. I’m certainly better than you. Let’s face it, what use are you? The only positive contribution you’ve ever made was getting Xander to shut up about his pathetic sex life for a while, and you’re not even good for that, anymore. Compared to you, these whiney Slayer Wannabes are the goddam Green Berets. Yeah, I’d say I’m definetly better than a pathetic, dimwitted, former serial killer. It’s not much of a trick.
"Do I think I’m better than Willow? I wouldn’t say that; she’s about the nicest person I know. Certainly nicer than me. On the other hand, I don’t try and kill all my friends everytime my love life isn’t going the way I want it. I’m not saying that makes me better, I’m just saying maybe she should try celibacy.
"How about Giles? Am I better than Giles? Well, I’ve never tried to poison him. That’s one point in my favor. I’ve also never gone behind his back to plot with a revenge-happy psycho to off our strongest ally. Also, when I was seventeen, I was saving the world. When he was seventeen, he was getting high by summoning demons. But I wouldn’t say I was better than him.
"I’m certainly not better than Xander. After all, Xander would never withhold crucial information from me because he’s jealous of my ex-boyfriend, right? Naw, not good ol’ Xander. I’m certainly a “better” fighter than he is, though. I’ve got the advantage of superpowers, of course. On the other hand, from what I’ve heard from Angel, Wesley is kicking ass and taking names over in L.A. How about that, Xander? Despite fighting demons for more than six years, you’d still get your butt kicked by Wesley Wyndham-Pryce. That’s just… sad.
“And Dawn. Dear, sweet Dawn. My only sister. You want to kick me out of the house? It’s your house too? Hey, remind me, how many double shifts did you pull as a frycook to pay for this house? But never mind that; you want the house, you got it. Just remember, outside of these goddam bratty SITs, I’m the only person in this room who has never tried to kill you. Have fun with your new friends.”
And then she’d leave Sunnydale, and the remainder of the series would be the rest of these ungrateful bastards being eaten one by one.
I’m just hoping that the only reason Buffy didn’t say something like that is that they’re saving it for Spike to say next week.
Man, Miller you should write fanfic. I’d read it.
Maybe, maybe not. It’s been a while since the last joke, so I’m hoping they’ve gotten it out of their systems.
Miller, me likey.
Miller, I am totally with pepper. However, I found this:
to be a little too flip.
writing note to self Saturday, 10 AM: perform Kitten banishing spell. Obviously not as deprogrammed as I thought.