
No, it doesn’t make sense. Vampires don’t have souls, remember. It sort of the major plot device for both shows. That Holtz was saying it doesn’t make it canon. He was deluded in so many other things, so…

No, it doesn’t make sense. Vampires don’t have souls, remember. It sort of the major plot device for both shows. That Holtz was saying it doesn’t make it canon. He was deluded in so many other things, so…
Is there any canonical evidence that anybody goes to hell after death? All we have is a vauge description of Heaven, which could be the ether. Perhaps the only way to get to a Hell dimension is to physically cross whatever barrier keeps the dimensions seperate. (Angel in Becoming II and Buffy in Anne, for example).
No, I don’t think so.
The canon in the Buffyverse is a little vague, IMO. The ‘hell dimensions’ seem to be parallel universes, somewhat nastier than our own, but still kinda recognizable - bipeds, farming, police force in Pylea. That humans are ‘cows’ make it a nasty place from our POV, but not if you’re any other than Lorne from the Deathwok (sp?) clan.
So, when Angel went to hell, he probably didn’t go to a comparatively nice place like Pylea. Also, they all had corporal form in Pylea. We don’t know where Angel went, but time didn’t flow in the same way (as it was for Connor), and maybe he was corporal.
The hell dimension Buffy visited in ‘Anne’ also seems to be more of a parallel universe and not the hell. I have a hard time thinking that an evil human, who dies and get sent to hell end up in that place or in Pylea. Also, seeing that the vampire who bites a human keeps the body, the soul wouldn’t have any corporal form and would then not … fit in(?) in those dimensions.
So Liam’s soul was in Limbo. Presumably Spike’s soul was there too. Are they waiting there for the vamp to be dusted? Will the soul in Limbo then merge with (what’s left of) the corpse and then head to either a nice place or bad place in corporal form? That doesn’t really explain Buffy. And why would she be hanging in Limbo. She’s one of the good guys. And dead. No corpse walking, re-animated by a demon.
So, still confused.
I think the beginning theory was- the soul goes to its final reward & a demon takes over the body; but in practice, it seems more that the soul is in a state of dormancy or at least subjection to the dominant vampiric demon (which also seems to have been less a seperate entity & more a souped-up evil alt-personality).
For example, when Dru sired William into Spike, William’s shadow self “Spike” took over, gifted with nifty new powers, but he was still William enough to love his Mum. After Vamp Mum got herself staked by him, Spike became fully dominant & William went into hibernation. Buffy re-awakened William & he grew stronger till, with the “restoring of his soul”, William was as present as Spike, reacting with insane horror at what he’d become. In the finale’, William enveloped (not eliminates) Spike.
To further complicate matters, Fury said in a recent interview that he was trying to demonstrate in Lies My Parents Told Me that Spike still had a piece of his soul…enough to still be “William”. Jane Espenson confirmed this at the Harvest Con last week…So Friar Ted, looks like your theory is pretty close to what the writers intended…