Burned at the stake

I pit myself, here. Since it is perhaps more self-pity than self-pit, I think I’m in the right forum for it. It is Mundane but important in my monde , probably Pointless (although I am skewered nonetheless), but I am Impelled to Share it.

Placing the first bundle of faggots at my feet: in the course of a thread in another forum I was struck by what seemed like a knacky notion. I PM’d a member with a comment on a related matter, hoping for a response that might lead to a thread on the topic. I had not previously ‘interacted’ with PosterX, true enough, but the PM feature is there and I used it.

The second bundle of faggots is a much stouter bundle, composed of thicker bits of wood, some thorny ones, all soaked in pitch: in another thread I succumbed to a fit of smart-assery and posted a sarcastic and bitter comment in response to a serious question.

The third bundle of faggots is tiny, but the pile is now up past my knees: A moderator chided me. I PM’d the moderator and apologized. Thereupon some confusion ensued during which I was under the mistaken impression that my post was being moved to another forum. That was soon straightened out and I thought the matter was ended. I felt quite stupid and would have apologized in the thread, but decided against it in favour of just staying out altogether. If only the decision to refrain from posting had been made 1 post sooner!!! I didn’t realize I was bound to the stake as tightly as Jeanne d’Arc once was, that I had listened to an inner voice that had guided me grossly astray.

Then, lightning struck and the flames engulfed me. I was hurled onto the hibachi of humiliation. Anyone looking toward southwestern British Columbia on that evening would have seen the sky lit with a red glow: my blush of mortification. The poster I had PM’d uninvited now responded, but not in a friendly manner, nor on the topic I had suggested. PosterX had taken enormous offense at my sarcastic and bitter comment (as mentioned above) and seemed offended that I had PM’d in the first place. The concantenation of crass bad manners on my part (intruding uninvited via PM) with the bitchy barb in the wrong thread led to a message from PosterX that scorched the screen and crushed my keyboard and mangled my mouse.

Mortified? Hardly expresses it, except that the “mort” in “mortified” means “dead” and I nearly was. It is one thing to be a fool, but another thing altogether to be made a fool of, and worse yet to make a fool of yourself. I was the lowly worm ground under heel, the toad under the harrow: it was my foot in my boot, my team was hitched to the harrow.

So there we are. I am still embarassed, still find it impossible to click on my PM icon, still fear PosterX will hurl another thunderbolt at me. I feel the way you feel in junior high when you make a jackass of yourself in front of the cool kids. I’m trying to laugh about it, but it’s hard to laugh when you are only a heap of ashes.

Enough. I am still angry at myself. I will get over it in time, but I am a famous grudge-holder and will make myself writhe a bit more first.

I kinda know how that feels.
There was a photography board I used to frequent. This board has a gallary. One of the posters was a model photographer. His models, though NOT minors were young, probably early 20’s. I spent a few years hoaning (or attemting to hoan) my photography skills. One day I watched the movie Hard Candy. Due to the subject matter of the movie I linked the two of them in my head. Just to be extra clear, the movie is about a guy that photographs and takes advantage of minors. The guy on the board did not take photos of minors or take advantage of any of his models. I started a thread, here’s how it went (I kept a copy of it) We’ll call the model guy JOHN

Title: Hard Candy the movie.

ME: Just saw this movie a few days ago, did anyone else think of JOHN when they saw it?

Another Poster: LOL I actually did, I saw it a couple of months ago and have to admit I thought of him.

JOHN:Actually I was waiting for someone to post this what made you think of me?

So he came out and specifically said he was EXPECTING someone to make the link. Not only was he expecting someone to say it, he figured the link between him and the movie where so strong someone would actually post it on the board, which I did.

After that he (and some others) started attacking me and the thread was quickly closed down.
THEN he goes and puts a picture of a piece of Hard Candy in his gallary. Here’s the embarrising part. I stuck my foot in my mouth and in the comment section wrote “pedophile.”

We had some PMing back and forth. He got rather annoyed and demanded an apology. I aplogized for the pedophile comment, but refused to aplogize for the thread. I explained to him that A)I made the link in my head in the first five minutes of the movie, long before I knew what it was about B)he clearly expected someone to make the connection. I also said that even though my picture comment was out of line, the timing of putting that picture on the gallary (and the title of the picture was “Hard Cand”) wasn’t an accident.

He accepted the apology, but I’ve hardly set foot on that board in…(checks date) wow almost exactly a year. Unfortunately I’ve hardly touched my camera in that time as well. I’ll go back eventually.

Well, I have no idea what you’re talking about, vison, but you’d hardly be the first person to embarrass themselves on the board. You will live, and probably go on to be a highly-respected, long-time poster. And if the person you PM’d reads this, perhaps they’ll be understanding and bury the hatchet somewhere besides in your head.

Personally, (and IMHO) I don’t think it’s such a faux pas to PM someone un-solicited. I don’t mind on the rare occasion someone PM’s me. Probably just the timing sucked.

It happens to the best of us, vision. Christ, if that kind of thing were a burning offense, I’d be Johnny Fuckin’ Storm around here.

Heh. Last December, I got my Dream Job. Online research, from home, part time, $15 an hour. Woo hoo! Finally, release from abject poverty!

In January, I was done training & they switched me over to a regular supervisor. When it came time to submit my hours for my first project, I was unsure exactly how to log them since it was different from training. So I wrote to the supe & asked him to suggest a proper number of hours. I said I was unsure, and I wanted to be proper. No response. 24 hours later, I wrote him & said, well, I didn’t hear from you, so I figured it this way. The timesheets, mind you, are entirely editable.

He wrote me then, a very nasty email accusing me of padding my hours & trying to get over. There was, I felt, a particularly elitist edge to it. I wrote him back & said I had immediately amended my timesheet to reflect the amount of time he said such a project should have taken me (because that’s how long it takes him – though I just started), & I asked that he please not speak to me in that tone again. I assured him that I am altruistic to a fault, and had only been uncertain of logging procedure.

Bear in mind that I was hired as an “independent contractor”, so that they could have a flexible workforce. (and not pay benefits.)

He wrote back in basically the same tone, further admonishing me. So I wrote back and said I wished I had never told him I live in Oakland. (I felt that he had formed a preconceived notion about me due to Oakland’s reputation as a Bad Place full of Bad People. I didn’t say that, though.) I said look, just send me the next project, so I can get to work.

I was fired, for insubordination. Though technically, if you hire people as independent contractors, I believe that you kind of forfeit the right to expect “subordinates”. The good thing that came out of it was that I finally had a little money to sign onto SDMB. Best fifteen bucks I EVER spent!

When Tarzan was tied to a stake once, he told his fellow-about-to-be-burnt-offering, “Breathe in the flames, it’ll make the end quicker.”

I was about to do that. But now, not so much.

I think someone went for a fire extinguisher.

Bah, everyone has their dust-ups. Luckily, the majority of posters here aren’t assholes and those that are you recognize pretty quickly. Besides, I like you, and that should be enough reason for anyone to stay, dammit!

Omigawd, that appeals to my inner Sally Field.

Is this a bad sign, do you think?

(Thank you, Inner Stickler. And thank you others, too. I like SDMB, and want to stick around.)

Yeah, I think you’ll be fine. The smoke’s starting to clear. :slight_smile:

vison - I think maybe you’re taking this a little too hard. Hey, we all say things that backfire on us at some point, but as long as you’re secure in the knowledge that you weren’t being a jerk and intentionally malicious/shit stirring then you shouldn’t feel too bad when someone takes exception. Also if you PM someone it’s hardly your fault that that person throws it back in your face, as you say the feature is there for everyone to use so getting offended that someone does so is a little sad (in my opinion).

Anyway, I brought with me my very own fire extinguisher (I always carry one around for situations just like this) so -

Sound of carbon dioxide hitting flames

you can get down now. :slight_smile:

I still feel like a fool. But I’ve felt like a fool many times in my life. Hell, I’ve BEEN a fool many times in my life and it hasn’t really killed me yet although there have been times when I wished it did.

So that hissing noise is the flames dying down? Thanks. It’s also the air going out of my overblown idea of the importance of this thing.

I… honestly have no idea what you’re even talking about. What went down?

I made a couple of faux pas, as described in the OP and I felt the need to share my stupidity with the world.

Or, at least with that part of the world that reads SDMB.

I will admit to a curiosity to what the brouhaha is about, perhaps you could link to it.

For what it is worth, I doubt that you need to beat yourself up over whatever it was. Most of us have made a faux pas at some point on the board or off.

I opened this thread as I like you as a poster. I already have you on my list of Tolkien fans and thus you are more noticeable to me.

Jim

Just for Jebus’ sake, don’t PM it to anyone!

:wink:

I could link to the thread where I made the inappropriate comment, but I can’t post the PM’s, so it wouldn’t really make sense anyway. I guess I COULD post the PM’s, but I won’t, the word “private” stops me. Sorry.

Yes, I’m a Tolkien fan, and I see a few names on this site that lead me to suspect I’m not alone. It was Tolkien - or rather Peter Jackson - who got me onto the internet in the first place, but there’s not much one can say about LOTR any more.

I, too, must admit to some curiosity as to what the brujaja’s about. If I figure it out, I’ll let you know. :wink:

I just threw this thread together to help out on the active Tolkien fans on the Dope. Tolkien Fans Entmoot

brujaja: sound good. :smiley:

Aw, **vish **(can I call you that?) I feel your pain. And I do think that you are, indeed, rather blowing this out of proportion.

First of all, if it was me who had posted a faux pas, I would go back as soon as I realized it and apologize in the thread for it. I tend to think more highly of people who do that; everyone makes an ass of themselves sometimes, but not everyone can admit and apologize for it. You should do what you’re comfortable with, though, and I probably wouldn’t post something this late in the game, unless the thread was still active.

Also, and I hope you don’t find this insulting, the fact of the matter is, on a message board, where there are so many people posting, most people probably just aren’t paying that close attention to you. If they even see the post in question (I didn’t), and you haven’t been the kind of ass that tends to go down flaming in the pit, they probably won’t remember it to associate it with you for ever after. Ymmv, and I do have memory problems, so I could be wrong on that one, but that seems to be my experience.

The vibe I get from your post reminds me of the way I felt when I first started participating in message boards and was pretty insecure, and the rest of this paragraph is based on that assumption. If I’m wrong, disregard it, of course. If you’re not used to the kind of interaction you find on message boards, it can feel like a rejection when what you post goes unacknowledged, since in face-to-face conversation, you’d get immediate visual if not verbal feedback on what you said and be able to gauge the appropriateness/embarrassment quotient of your comment that way, and that doesn’t happen on a message board. Just try to think of it this way: go into a thread and note all the posts that you are glad were posted (they were funny or insightful or just added to the quality of the conversation, etc) but didn’t make you feel the need to respond to them personally. Then look and see how many of them were specifically commented on by anyone. Probably not most of them. A lot of the time, your posts will be among them.

Regarding PMs, if I had an experience like yours (I’ve never PM-ed anyone), I would just start a thread, probably in IMHO, asking what the etiquette concerning PMs is around here. And even if the answer is that you were out of line (I don’t think you were, fwiw), as long as you were polite and not pushy about it, you can probably just chalk it up to a learning experience and let it go. It happens to everyone. And as long as it’s a one time thing, rather than a pattern of people consistently reacting to you that way, I wouldn’t take it too personally.

Bonus points for the visual descriptions of the burning-at-the-stake metaphor in your posts, by the way. It was nicely done.

Oh, I’m used to posting on internet forums, but every one is different. I’m too quick with the quip, a lot of times. Shoot from the lip, so to speak.

I don’t feel rejected or bummed if my posts aren’t responded to, no matter how brilliant they are. (I feel that calls for a smiley: :slight_smile: ) And while I seldom use the PM feature on those boards where it is provided, my experience has been that people don’t usually mind a PM. I certainly don’t. Those virtual friends I’ve made first became friendlier via PMs. I’ve never sent a nasty one, although certainly my fingers have occasionally itched to do so.

SDMB is much bigger than the other forums I have posted to or still post to, with one exception. I can’t possibly even get through the “new posts” when I visit here! It’s an awfully busy place.

I take your advice and comments in the spirit in which they are given. I might have gone back and apologized, but there was this confusion about the post being moved. It ended up that the moderator had emailed me in response to someone else’s post and by the time that got sorted out, it “felt” like I was too late. At least I didn’t add fuel to that fire. Although I suppose my silence could be read that way, too. sigh

And thanks for the compliment on my metaphors! My blush is not quite so fiery, but there is a glow, just the same.