I swear that these assholes are the absolute most corrupt and amoral bunch of slimebags in American history. Read the following link to see how they deliberately skewed intelligence info to justify their sham war on Iraq. These bastards are going to rot in hell, which will come as a great shock to many of them that truly believe they are doing God’s work.:mad:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030530/ts_nm/iraq_intelligence_dc_2
If that’s your sense of history, I’ll bet a Central Park squirrel could trounce you at Jeopardy. Try reading about the Nixon years, or Warren Harding (“Teapot Dome”) or U.S. Grant. All of them had a veneer of slime, and in some cases, the veneer ran deep.
This bombastic excess of hatred is just plain sad and makes you look really immature.
It’s tragic that they had to invent reasons to go to war when there were other, perfectly valid, and absolutely true reasons to do it already in place.
All I have to say is a resounding “no shit”. Anyone with 5 brain cells knew they were skewing the itel.
Name one.
Well, there’s a chance one of the missiles fired by either side might accidentally have hit your modem, thus preventing you from posting and saving some of the rest of us from the drivel-er, information you grace us with on an all-too-frequent basis.
One.
I’m of the opinion that, the SECOND that attacks against planes patrolling the UN-sanctioned No-Fly zone began - and most certainly after subsequent attacks - Saddam should’ve been iced. From the above link:
Bolding mine.
And never hit one.
Odd, don’t you think?
Bad aim does not mean they weren’t spoiling for a fight.
Got one, too.
Bzzzzzzz. Nope, sorry, try again.
The US doesn’t get to enforce the UN resolution. That’s not a legal reason for an invasion.
Have you got anything else?
Wow, an unprovoked personal attack from a poster I’ve never said a word to.
What drivel is it that bothers you, especially? I post so much I can’t keep track. Tell me what you don’t like so I can be sure that I never disagree with you again…whoever you are.
Diogenes the Cynic wrote
Sez you. Firing on US military forces is an act of war against the US, period. The fact that said forces were in process of upholding a peace mandated by the UN should get it UN approval and military backing, but that’s certainly not required to make retaliation “legal” (to use your term).
Define “legal” reason for an invasion. One that doesn’t include a clause of “It can’t happen unless I, Diogenese The Great, say it’s okay.”
Do you? Aside from “I’m Contrarian Man, here to be a minor nuisance to conservative opinions everywhere!” :rolleyes: Go call a soldier a babykiller or something.
Cry me a river. His comments were about as “unprovoked” as the US striking back at Japan for Pearl Harbor.
It probably has something to do with your Holier-Than-Thou, No-Evidence attitude that anything and everything conservative (note the small “c” before you begin frothing at the mouth) is to be spat upon.
Not surprised. Your posts rarely show much thought.
They were firing on units which were under the authority of the UN. In other words, they were UN forces, not US. This is a technical distinction but it prevents the anti-aircraft fire from being a causus belli for war on behalf of the US, per se.
If it were as simple as declaring the anti-aircraft fire an “act of war,” Bush would have done it, believe me. He never even tried to argue that. He just said it violated the Security Resolution.
A legal reason is either one of the two justifications allowed for an attack on the sovereignty of another nation by the UN Charter, i.e. self-defense or “imminent” threat. The WMD canard was an attempt to satisfy imminent threat. Thus far, that justification has not been supported by the facts.
I’m sorry, i thought this was an open message board. Did i stumble into a Rush limbaugh fan site? Are only conservative opinions allowed?
I’ve never called a soldier a “babykiller” by the way, and I served in the US Navy.
How so? I’ve never said a hostile word to iamphuna. I don’t even really know who he is, although I guess I’ve seen his name a lot.
I agree with everything but the “no evidence” part. I’m not sure what you mean by that…yes, Iam holier than thou and I am liberal. Is iamphuna a conservative? I really don’t know.
I put a lot of thought into my posts. Do you think it’s easy to be this obnoxious? Thinking up new obsenities to fling at GWB takes up half my day all by itself.
I’d love for you to provide a cite saying that US forces on a mission under UN authority that comes under attack doesn’t count as US forces being under attack.
SPOOFE, it’s not just everything that’s conservative. It’s everything that isn’t in utter accord with Diogenes’ worldview. Doesn’t matter how nonsensical or irrational something is in his worldview, and it’s a rather convenient thing, because it eliminates the need for thought. I don’t think my view on rape is all that conservative. It just doesn’t mesh with Diogenes’ worldview, so I’m wrong.
Diogenes, you spew so much shit I swear I’d think you were a septic tank with a leak on the bottom if I was reasonably positive that they couldn’t properly use keyboards.
Here is one example of you and your “What, you disagree with me? I don’t care if I’m wrong, you’re just too naive to post!” attitude.
The drivel that bothers me, btw, is the shit you spew before you think (see worldview). Other than that, I love your posts. Unfortunately, the category “the shit you spew before you think” covers approximately 3,758 posts, give or take a few dozen.
Well, actually, it’s very easy for a child of 5 or 6, or one with that mentality. In a child it’s extremely excusable. In one who puts himself forward as something else, it is not.
I was actually wondering if it was easy to be as full of shit, pompous and ignorant as you are, but I dunno if you’ll have time enough to think about that tomorrow, what with…
You should really get a new hobby. I’ve heard that breathing, for example, does wonders for the anaerobic bacteria growing between one’s ears.
Diogenes has been one of my favorite posters since I came here last October. His posts are clear, concise and intelligent. I never tire of reading what he has to say. His posts continue to fight my own ignorance.
Iampunha, I have also found value in your thinking. I have made it a point in the last three weeks or so to read your posts. I guess I am not as familiar with your points of view, but I was totally surprised at your comments about Diogenes.
I look forward to intelligent discussion of varying viewpoints. Could we talk about Frostillicus’s thread topic instead of getting sidetracked on personal issues? (Just a request)
I sometimes hijack other threads so I’m not a stickler about that. I just think it is an enormously important subject.
Hi, Spoofe!
Pax