taken care of, in post 9 
But what about Poland?
:smack:
Failing the ‘get laid’ part, the ‘something’ part (a.k.a. ‘chocolate’).
No, one of the most underreported aspects of the “surge” is that we’ve already tried more troops. The proposed plan is basically going to return the American troop level in Iraq back to what it was two years ago - which pretty much disproves the theory that 21,000 more troops are going to restore peace in Iraq. The only way that this can honestly be called a new plan would be if Bush accepted the pre-war Pentagon estimates and increased the troop level by something like 150,000 additional troops.
“We’ve never been fight them there instead of here”.
A year and a half?? It’s January 30 - he’s got ten days short of two years left.
I’m beginning to think Congress should impeach him and Cheney both, simply as an act of national salvation. The charge? “You guys aren’t just fucking up our country, you’re fucking up the whole freakin’ world!!”
He’s going to create his own by attacking Iran without congressional approval. No doubt on the back of some trumped up Gulf of Tonkin type incident or the pretext of Iranian ‘meddling’ in Iraq.
Y’guys, see, the thing is, his plan (A, B, or C) all along has been to go in, make a stand, and at some point Jesus will come in and pulls our chestnuts out of the fire (But hey, is there something wrong?/Jesus, what’s taking so long?/C’mon…). At least that’s how it looks to me. Faith-based military strategy.
I believe that neither Switzerland nor Sweden is a territory in Risk. Expecting Dubya to care whether or not there are any armies on them seems a little petty.
-Joe
I’ve never met anyone who didn’t know that Switzerland has been historically neutral. A nation’s leader should be expected to know more about such things than the public at large. The Leader’s not knowing this is not acceptable – especially when he is offered the opportunity to say he misspoke. He could not even admit a minor mistake.
Of course, I may have just been whooshed.
A lesson unlearnt again after Vietnam. I’d say as a rough rule of thumb - people who think they are fighting for a combination of their honour, their homeland and their god as they see it - against a casualty-adverse invader (whose casualty-avoidance tactics and strategies inevitably lead to high civilian casualties thus creating more enemies) will always have the greater will. Particularly when that enemy glories in martyrdom.
The way I heard the story, Bush later (next day?) came to the person that correctly stated it was Switzerland and not Sweden with no army, and told him that he was right and Bush was wrong. So at least he does have the capacity to look into a point of contention and admit error. But it does strike me as odd that a person in that position would make such a factual error, inconsequential as it may be.
Holy Shit - Mike O’Cain is really George Bush!
No wonder I never liked him.
Yes, but see, this time we’re gonna actually secure the areas after we’ve cleaned them out.
The Sweden/Switzerland thing is troubling, to be sure, but one can understand making such a mistake, since they both start with Sw, and both of them are not America.
I think a more troubling assertion is that, essentially on the eve of the invasion of Iraq, Bush is said to have had no idea that there were distinctions between Iraqis, such as Shia versus Sunni. Now, granted this might not be common knowledge among Americans, but one might think that in considering an invasion of a country such as Iraq, something might have come up about such things.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Ambassador_claims_shortly_before_invasion_Bush_0804.html
Y’all are reacting to this like it’s a surprise to you.
I recall that when he was running for the 2000 election, the papers up here (and in the UK) were full of equal parts mirth that the race included someone so obviously handicapped by the whole dumb-as-a-bag-of-rocks thing, and apprehension about the consequences for the rest of the world should he somehow be elected.
Of course, back then we were mostly worried about a more insular U.S., with a non-existent foreign policy.
Oh mine! That is just… Wow!
I suppose we just have to count ourselves lucky no major diplomatic incident arose from the Swiss refusal to send a carrier group to help out. Or Jamaica a regiment of their crack mountain troops.
Up next: George Bush declares war on Swaziland.
Well the Swazi’s did start WW2 by invading Poland.