Bushes and War

Y’know, today’s news made clear that the Shrub’s approval ratings are dropping like a pelican what’s had a stroke in midair. Apparently, folks do not care for his handling of the war in Iraq.

His old man could be said to have handled his Gulf War much more successfully, and his approval ratings were outtasight during the war in question.

Unfortunately, it ended too soon. George Sr.'s ratings slid afterwards, largely on economic issues, and he lost his bid for reelection.

I can’t help but find it kind of odd that war was so good to George Sr., and his only mistake was ending it too soon…

…and that war was so cruel to George Dubya, and among his many mistakes was starting one in the first place, much less having no real idea how to end it… or WHEN to end it…

God MUST have a sense of humor. :confused:

Some fucking sense of humor.

Well, considering this is the same deity who made Pharaoh change his mind on the whole Moses/free-my-people deal so that he (God) could then slaughter all the firstborn just to prove a point, then yeah, I could see him getting off on this sort of thing.

I don’t want to start any blasphemous rumours
But I think that God has got a sick sense of humour
And when I die I expect to find him laughing.

:smiley:

I was thinking about Presidents and wars. Whether or not they were the Presidents’ “fault”, I was beginning to think it was a Democrat thing.

Wilson, WWI, Democrat.
Roosevelt, WWII, Democrat.
Truman, WWII and Korea, Democrat.
Kennedy, Vietnam, Democrat.
Johnson, Vietnam, Democrat.
Nixon, a Republican, finally got us out.
Carter, Iran Hostage Crisis, Democrat.

But then there was Reagan and Grenada, Bush the Elder and the Gulf War, and Bush the Younger and Gulf War II. Republicans. Clinton had Somalia and Yugoslavia. Democrat.

What does all this mean? Probably nothing.

Either that, or this is all divine Punishment for stealing the 2000 election.

God: “So, George, you want to be President of the United States bad enough to lie, cheat, and steal your way to the office? Okay, buddy, time for some holy smiting – you’ll get that office, boy, along with a Presidency that will go down in history as one of the worst ever, and your entire family name will be synonimous with ‘lying idiot’ for seven generations.”

Boy, I sure do hope so. As a Floridian, the possibility of a 2008 Jeb Bush run at the White House scares me.

Indeed it does.

Amen, and I’m not even a Floridian.

Johnny L.A.,

You forgot the Civil War
Abraham Lincoln Republican.

Bush 1 had better spinners than Bush 2 and, regardless of whether one supported either war or neither, the stated reason for Gulf 1 (to get Iraq out of Kuwait) turned out to be pretty much the truth. Now whether the invasion could have been averted in the first place (paging April Glaspie) is another question. Unlike Bush 2 and Gulf 2, with ever-shifting rationales all of which seem to be pretty much bogus. I was active in the peace movements for both wars and while opposition in that circle to both wars was equally strong but there wasn’t the same sort of cynicism about Gulf 1 as there was about Gulf 2. Basically the sense around Gulf 2 was that Bush 2 was a lying bastard who was using the war to advance his political agenda and that sense was largely absent from the opposition to Gulf 1. YMMV.

If the story below is shown to be true then I would guess he won’t like what happens to his ratings. US intelligence fears Iran duped hawks into Iraq war

Darkhold: I was just looking at the last 100 years.

Anyway, it doesn’t mean anything. I did not mean to suggest that Democrats get us into more wars than Republicans. There are many factors that lead a country to war. Some wars are justified, and others are not.

Where is the elder Bush, anyway? I know that Dubya said in his last press conference that he hadn’t consulted his father on the war, preferring to ask “a higher authority” (or something like that, I don’t recall his precise words). George pre-Dubya has been remarkably absent and silent - does he approve of Dubya’s policies? Or does Cheney have the elder locked in an old bomb shelter somewhere, guarded by a soldier with a leash? How come some enterprising young 60-Minutes type reporter doesn’t track down Daddy (and Barb, too while we’re at it) and ask them what they think of the fine mess their brat has gotten us in?

“GRAAAMPAAW!”

“Well, Mike, I can’t say I think a lot of my boys, you know. Neil got himself burnt in that stupid Savings and Loan thing, Georgie went and stole the election, and now he’s gonna get ousted by Lurch, of all people, because he didn’t know how to run a war OR an economy, and Jeb… well… Jeb’s governor of Florida, which some people would say ranks right up there with Dog Catcher Of Beverly Hills. All I can say is that I wish I’d just cut my tinkus off before I ever went into politics.”

Bush is so bad? OK, won’t argue. Just let us know what party you are running under so we can vote for you. Since you seem to have all the answers. I’d love to vote for someone that can tell me what will happen in the future and how s/he would handle it. So bring it on. Tell us how you will keep the free world free without hurting a hair on a single beetle. I’m waiting.

You could also make a case that Wilson and Roosevelt actually did the opposite with the two World Wars. After all, the U.S. was late to both parties.

At last report, he was trying to get Gorbachev to jump out of a plane with him. Too bad those guys didn’t try that stunt 20 years ago!

And as for Mama Bush, someone should tell her that it’s not too late to have her oldest kid’s birth certificate amended to make his middle name Armstrong like it should have been in the first place.

Holy shit, yes. I agree heartily with that. I might even register to vote just to vote against Jeb in a US election.

Well, duffer, it I were fighting a war on terror, I would do SOMETHING other than invade the state of a dictator that hates Al Qaeda as much or ever more than we do. Just for starters. I mean, you don’t have to be a fucking genius to outdo Bush. Just not being a fucking idiot would do for starters.

Getting rich(er) as a consultant over at the Carlyle Group, I believe.