Butt-Hurt Trump Takes to Twitter Again (Part 1)

[Slash1972]

@JohnT

“I’m very concerned that Russia will be fighting very hard to have an impact on the upcoming Election. Based on the fact that no President has been tougher on Russia than me, they will be pushing very hard for the Democrats. They definitely don’t want Trump!”

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1021784726217142273?s=19

That’s hilarious. As stated above, he was right there when Putin said he wanted Trump to win. hahahaha!

[ThelmaLou]

@D_Odds

Every time I think he couldn’t get any fucking stupider, he proves me wrong.

That is definitely his greatest area of achievement. :dubious:

[Kobal2]

@JohnT

So, I’ve posited the theory that the 2018 election interference will be blatantly for Democrats.

Today, a week after a 2-hour secret meeting with the orchestrator of the last act of war, an act which got him into office, Trump tweets the following:

“I’m very concerned that Russia will be fighting very hard to have an impact on the upcoming Election. Based on the fact that no President has been tougher on Russia than me, they will be pushing very hard for the Democrats. They definitely don’t want Trump!”

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1021784726217142273?s=19

He really has all the subtlety and cunning of a 5 year old, doesn’t he ?

[asahi]

@Slash1972

That’s hilarious. As stated above, he was right there when Putin said he wanted Trump to win. hahahaha!

It’s not hilarious; this is deadly serious stuff we’re talking about. A president who still has about 45-50% of the population willing to say he’s doing a good enough job, who’s approval rating actually got higher as he was getting worked by Putin on live TV, is now basically laying out the next conspiracy theory. And it’s the mother of them all.

I predicted this would happen back in December.

https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20689461&postcount=1413

For Putin, there’s an opportunity to sow chaos next November. Connect the dots. It’s not just the Trump administration that’s lawless; there are clearly people in the Republican party who are either trying to hide their own conduct or are simply concerned that more Mueller bombshells are going to destroy the party’s reputation irreparably - a very possible, if not inevitable, outcome at this point. So if you’re Trump and the bat shit, traitorous wing of the Republican party, what would you do? Just let the chips fall where they may and call it a teachable moment going forward? We’re talking about a presidential administration and one of the country’s two major parties - which just so happens to have gerrymandered its way to political dominance - committing potentially some of the most egregious criminal deeds and political sins imaginable. If unmistakable proof of these acts are produced in a court of law or even just distributed to the free press, it could drive them into political extinction and even land them in jail for decades perhaps in some cases. For them, there’s no turning back now. They’re like bank robbers who came for a sack of gold but now realized they’ve just shot a hostage - they’re in deep and desperate to get out. And they will do anything to get out. Anything. They’ve already made it clear through their actions that they don’t care about the law or the political process - they feel entitled to power and legitimacy that the usual channels won’t provide them. So they’re going to try to crush the system. Putin sees this. Putin can hand them the weapon to do it, too. Yesterday’s warning about State Department “meddling” in the Navalny case wasn’t just a protest - it was also quite possibly a pretext.

Now why would Putin seek to actually intervene in an election?

Well imagine it’s November and Democrats are leading in the polls - which seems a very likely scenario at the moment. Putin knows that email hacks and Internet trolls probably aren’t going to work as well as they did in 2016. We’ve already seen that on the game film. Most voters, internet companies, and law enforcement officials will be ready for it. What we probably won’t be ready for, though, is a massive attack on voting stations in key states. We will say we’re ready, but we won’t be. Putin’s Russia already knows the weaknesses in the system and there are too many holes to fill. They don’t necessarily have to attack key states or districts. If they just attack the infrastructure with great enough force, it would wreak havoc in the days leading up to and on election night. The Russians don’t even have to go too far with it either. If there’s evidence of voting stations disabled and other irregularities, the election results will either be legitimately invalidated – or just as bad, perceived to be so even if in fact they are not.

There are different possible outcomes. Maybe some precincts simply can’t hold valid elections at all. Maybe others can but outages and irregularities cause delays, long lines, confusion, and tensions at voting stations. Perhaps a Republican incumbent thought to be “safe” inexplicably loses to a Democrat in Oklahoma, or a Democrat loses a safe district to a Republican in New York City. They wouldn’t necessarily have to lose either for the concerns and shock to set in - reports of missing votes would probably do the trick. What results is that neither side can be sure of the result. People lose faith and confidence in the election system, which is probably the most important institution in a democracy like ours. In that event, Democrats would insist that they won the election; the Republicans would insist that either they’re wrong or that we can’t know for sure. There would be no easy way out of that crisis because it would be a crisis without precedent. That’s what Putin sees: an opportunity to create a crisis in America so that America spends more time fighting itself, and less fighting what we consider to be our foreign adversaries. How did Putin take Crimea? By exploiting divisions in a country and using that to create a crisis. He’s already doing this across Europe as well. Putin has been at war with the US for a few years now. Bush didn’t realize it. Obama realized it but too late, and when he did, he had no answers. Clinton realized it and wanted to fight back, which of course made Putin only more determined to hit us with greater force. Trump may or may not realize that Putin’s at war with us, but he (and the GOP) apparently don’t care because he’s giving them what they want, which is power they’re not really entitled to. He used our elections against us in 2016 but was careful to do so as more of a warning of what could happen, assuming all along that he would have to deal with Hillary Clinton. When Trump won, though, it changed the dynamic considerably. “Going too far” has a different meaning in the Trump era. There’s more room for Putin to sprawl his legs out in his chair, more tolerance by the United States. Expect more bad behavior, and expect Putin now to see what he can get away with. But more than that, understand that there are mutual interests between the plutocatic criminal enterprise of the GOP and Putin’s Russia. Neither of them wants a truly democratic outcome next year.

You need to understand the gravity of this. This week has been unprecedented in American history. All of the signs point to an ailing democracy, a democracy that’s ailing so badly that even a Democratic win at the ballot box could end up being a loss officially, and if not that, it could be a contested election

[BlankSlate]

You really are bonkers. Entertaining, but completely fucking bonkers.

[digs]

@asahi

It’s not… [snip snip]
You need to understand the gravity of this.

I’d like to. Do you have a shorter version? I’ve started reading it (twice… tried it in the other thread, too) and got bogged down.

[OttoDaFe]

@JohnT

So, I’ve posited the theory that the 2018 election interference will be blatantly for Democrats.

Today, a week after a 2-hour secret meeting with the orchestrator of the last act of war, an act which got him into office, Trump tweets the following:

“I’m very concerned that Russia will be fighting very hard to have an impact on the upcoming Election. Based on the fact that no President has been tougher on Russia than me, they will be pushing very hard for the Democrats. They definitely don’t want Trump!”

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1021784726217142273?s=19

As reported on Rachel Maddow, the question about whether Godfather Vlad preferred Trump was removed from the official WH transcript of the Helsinki press conference. The article suggests this might have been inadvertent, but Maddow played the official video and the question had been removed there as well, so it seems to have been deliberate. (The Russian transcript, BTW, omits the exchange entirely.)

As seems to happen more and more of late, Mr Eric Blair has a prescient commentary on these times:

It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grammes a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grammes a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it. Parsons swallowed it easily, with the stupidity of an animal. The eyeless creature at the other table swallowed it fanatically, passionately, with a furious desire to track down, denounce, and vaporize anyone who should suggest that last week the ration had been thirty grammes. Syme, too-in some more complex way, involving doublethink, Syme swallowed it. Was he, then, alone in the possession of a memory?

I seem to have a defective memory. Room 101 awaits.…

[Ludovic]

@JohnT

So, I’ve posited the theory that the 2018 election interference will be blatantly for Democrats.

Today, a week after a 2-hour secret meeting with the orchestrator of the last act of war, an act which got him into office, Trump tweets the following:

“I’m very concerned that Russia will be fighting very hard to have an impact on the upcoming Election. Based on the fact that no President has been tougher on Russia than me, they will be pushing very hard for the Democrats. They definitely don’t want Trump!”

I think this is possible but not for the ostensible reason the CFSG “thinks”. It’s possible that Russia will attempt to interfere in election in favor of the Democrats – blatantly, egregiously, and deliberately incompetently. Like, actually trying to change votes on systems in a way that won’t work but which can be traced back to Russia fairly easily. That would accomplish the dual purpose of hurting faith in American democracy while still helping their bitch in chief due to the blowback against manufactured apparent Democratic “collusion”.

[JohnT]

… precisely the point I made to Rep Joaquin Castro a few months ago: https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=856350

[Steve_MB]

@Kobal2

He really has all the subtlety and cunning of a 5 year old, doesn’t he ?

More like the subtlety and cunning of a friend’s cat who simply could not learn to keep his tail tucked in when he sat under her wheelchair.

[DesertDog]

@Ludovic

That would accomplish the dual purpose of hurting faith in American democracy while still helping their bitch in chief due to the blowback against manufactured apparent Democratic “collusion”.

Now there’s some 4th dimensional chess.

[Sherrerd]

@OttoDaFe

As reported on Rachel Maddow, the question about whether Godfather Vlad preferred Trump was removed from the official WH transcript of the Helsinki press conference. The article suggests this might have been inadvertent, but Maddow played the official video and the question had been removed there as well, so it seems to have been deliberate. (The Russian transcript, BTW, omits the exchange entirely.).…

I find this absolutely horrifying, and am amazed that it’s not getting more attention. (Admittedly Maddow did try to devote an entire show to it, but then got blindsided by the release of the Trump/Cohen tape.)

[romansperson]

@Sherrerd

I find this absolutely horrifying, and am amazed that it’s not getting more attention. (Admittedly Maddow did try to devote an entire show to it, but then got blindsided by the release of the Trump/Cohen tape.)

The White House stenographers have also been mostly sidelined, as well, so there’s going to be a lot of stuff from this administration that isn’t going to be recorded accurately. Imagine that.

[Sherrerd]

@romansperson

The White House stenographers have also been mostly sidelined, as well, so there’s going to be a lot of stuff from this administration that isn’t going to be recorded accurately. Imagine that.

It has to be annoying to any would-be dictator to come into office and find a whole slew of provisions and procedures devoted to making government accountable and transparent. Poor things, having to go to the trouble of sweeping all that away!

[jasg]

@romansperson

The White House stenographers have also been mostly sidelined, as well, so there’s going to be a lot of stuff from this administration that isn’t going to be recorded accurately. Imagine that.

This along with no visitor logs, phone logs/transcripts etc. I wonder what will go in the Trump Presidential library… Tweets and Apprentice re-runs?

[Robot_Arm]

@jasg

I wonder what will go in the Trump Presidential library… Tweets and Apprentice re-runs?

I assume there will be an egress, with prominent signs directing visitors.

[OttoDaFe]

@Robot_Arm

@jasg

I wonder what will go in the Trump Presidential library… Tweets and Apprentice re-runs?

I assume there will be an egress, with prominent signs directing visitors.

After said visitors have paid a hefty entrance fee, of course. I mean, the egress is quite rare, so the privilege of seeing one should carry a commensurate price tag.

[bobot]

Oh goody, he’s doing this again:

“I would be willing to ‘shut down’ government if the Democrats do not give us the votes for Border Security, which includes the Wall!” he wrote.

(Warning: Auto playing video of an Orange Fucking Moron.)

Trump threatens to 'shut down' government

He must be talking about Mexican Democrats. right?

[Sunny_Daze]

What’s this about Mueller having a contentious business relationship with President Trump (and why does he tweet about himself in the third person)?

[Aspenglow]

@Sunny_Daze

What’s this about Mueller having a contentious business relationship with President Trump (and why does he tweet about himself in the third person)?

Oh, it’s old, stupid news.

Apparently there was a fee dispute between Mueller and one of Trump’s golf courses years ago. Mueller simply dropped his membership.

Also, Mueller left employment from the law firm that represents Jared Kushner to take the job as Special Counsel. Obviously Kushner’s lawyer is a different lawyer in that firm than Mueller.

Lastly, Trump claims that Mueller was butt hurt because Trump interviewed Mueller for the FBI position to replace Comey and was disappointed when he wasn’t picked. What Trump never mentions is that Mueller only interviewed for the job at Trump’s invitation. He was not actively seeking the Director’s job again after having held it for 12 years.

Mueller ran all these concerns past the DOJ ethics folks before accepting his position. According to DOJ, none of the issues rose to the level of being an actual conflict of interest.

Trump’s legal team could also ask a judge for a formal legal determination of conflict of interest. You’ll notice they’ve never done that.

This is all about sowing doubt about the integrity of Mueller’s investigation, and nothing else.