The picture of the cake said it all to me, To put that on the cake seems so cruel and heartless, it seemed to indicate that she knew that that was her child as she was willing to cast that child into death while she partied on.
I can understand someone thinking, even convincing themselves that they are not sacrificing their child, but this is IMHO willful sacrifice, but hey what can you expect from Jezebel, I just thank God that He is above even that.
I agree. Does anyone truly think the party was the only way for this chick to get the money? How hard would it have to been to just ask all these friends who came to the party for a loan? It sounds like she decided to have the party before even asking anyone for help…and surely all the food and party decor COST her money.
As for those who are fussing about “abortion access”, in this case it doesn’t sound like she had to go to Ohio for the abortion. It sounds like a friend living in Ohio wanted her to travel there for the abortion so the friend could be a part of the experience: “A few days beforehand, one of her friends had asked her to have the abortion in Ohio. When Maggie insisted on bringing her boyfriend along, the friend told her not to bother coming.”
I don’t think this reflects a change in the moral views of the upcoming generation so much as it reflects the fact that a lot of time college kids who are still experimenting with the world will try to push the envelope of what is “socially acceptable”.
Such kids often grow up to fall in line with the “mainstream” morals later on in life. Similar to the classic Onion article about the Lesbian Until Graduation phenomenon, I would not be at all surprised to find out in a few years from now “Maggie” grows up to be a conservative Christian who disapproves of abortion.
I talked to a friend my age who thought it was a fine idea and who didn’t see anything wrong with being flippant because…well, I guess if you see nothing wrong with abortion, why would you?
The weird thing is I always thought of myself as being pretty flippant. But when it comes right down to it, I suppose I take it more seriously than I thought. I think abortion is an important thing to have access to, but I don’t treat it as a joke.
This is pretty close to my attitude, I think.
Seconded. I think I have friends (and relatives) who are close enough to me and love me enough that they could give me a loan if I need it (not just for abortion, but for other things)…
This is I think why this whole idea of an abortion fundraising party disgusts me.
Everyone is this thread keeps throwing around the figure of $500, so I’m just going to assume that’s the average for a regular abortion. I was working part time in college and making around $10 an hour, so coming up $500 would have just meant eating ramen for a few months or passing the hat to cover my rent while I sprung for the abortion.
Or, I could use this magical box on my desk and sell a bunch of shit I had that I probably would have needed much less than an abortion.
See if you can spot the flaw in this plan.
You spend all the money you have, emptying your bank account, or put it on your credit card. Then, in order to make up the difference or make the payments, you eat ramen for a few months. See, it wasn’t THAT hard to figure out what he was saying.
And if emptying out your bank account isn’t an option…again, refraining from sex is. I think abortions are a necessary evil, but I don’t see why the government or insurance agencies should have to foot the bill for irresponsible behavior.
Soapbox Monkey, I truly hope you have either a very large income or a very small libido. For your own sake, I mean. Because fortunately, you don’t get to make the rules for the rest of us. Also, see if you can spot the flaw in the plan “Well, if you can’t afford an abortion, you should just have the baby.”
Diana - what other sorts of fun do you expect your friends to pay for. Do you go out for pizza and forget your wallet? After all, you have to eat. If you accidentally wreck your car, do you go out and take up collections to fix it? Or is this “my friends should take responsibility for me” limited to the consequences of sex?
This ISN’T “I got cancer and am hosting a fundraiser to keep my family out of bankruptcy while I die.” This is “I made a choice to have sex in a fashion that I should realize could result in pregnancy - got pregnant - and now think my friends should help me out.” There are lots of ways to take care of that libido problem that don’t result in pregnancy.
Yes, but there are an extremely limited number of ways to deal with the problem of pregnancy. Telling a pregnant person that not getting pregnant would have been a better idea is true, but not useful.
I’ve already stated that her way of getting the money wouldn’t be my way, but it appears that her friends were okay with it, and who am I to say they shouldn’t be?
Not only is the image from CakeWrecks, it’s part of a thread on hysterectomy cakes. I don’t see any mention of a cake in the link from the OP, or in the original piece by Byard Duncan.
Nor do I see anything to the effect that the couple had “irresponsible” sex that resulted in an avoidable pregnancy. Condoms break, etc.
“Help me pay for my abortion” is, I agree, TMI. However, I’m another one who doesn’t believe that abortion is only OK as long as the woman feels really bad about it.
It does raise an interesting question. Is it reasonable to tell someone they shouldn’t have sex if they can’t afford birth control/abortion/etc.?
Instead she should of asked for her friends to buy part interest in her viable fetus, in 9 months they auction their rights to the baby to pre qualified adoptive parents. Then she sells the live birth film to TLC, and lines up endorsements for getting her body back in shape.
Ha!
But I’m afraid you’re too late. TLC just patented this idea last week.
I look at it this way… birth control should be a given, like car insurance. You shouldn’t have sex without birth control, same way you shouldn’t drive without insurance.
But to say “You shouldn’t have sex if you can’t afford to have an abortion or a baby” is a lot like saying “You shouldn’t drive if you can’t afford to replace a totaled car or pay the medical bills resulting from an accident.”
Every time you get in your car, you take the chance of getting into an accident. You take precautions to avoid it, but it can still happen. If you do, no one ever seems to say “Well, you’ll just have to live with those injuries. What were you doing driving, if you can’t afford spinal surgery?”
This is kind of a bullshit analogy. Most people need to drive to get to work so that they have the money to survive. Feed yourself or you die. Find shelter or you die. I have yet to see a study demonstrating causality between a lack of sex and any life threatening conditions.
Most people get into a car every morning so they can earn the means for their (and their family’s) survival. If you refrain from sex for a year, you’ll survive. Hard to believe, I know, but it’s true.
Sex is a basic human right, but not a necessity. Procreation is a necessity for our species, true, but when you start talking about abortion, procreation clearly isn’t your focus.
You have every right to have sex as responsibly or irresponsibly as you wish, but if you happen to get pregnant, and don’t have the means to take care of the situation in whatever way you see fit, I have every right to say “tough shit.”
Nonsense. People could walk, bike, take public transportation, find work closer to home, or find a home closer to work. I get by quite nicely without a car. I get by less nicely without sex. No one’s ever died from lack of either.
You have every right not to hand your friend money for an abortion, you don’t have every right to tell her how she should or shouldn’t obtain that money without your help.
Contraceptives fail. This is the reality of 2009. There is no fool-proof contraceptive. However, there are some, particularly the hormonal variety, that are awfully good. So honestly, when you’re spending upwards of $50 a month, in some cases, to use a variety of contraceptive that has a failure rate in the single digits, should you really also be constrained from having an adult relationship because you’ve got shitty, politically constrained insurance and are still in school, or working a low-paying job? Really? So millions of people (at least 50 million) in America alone should just abstain, because it strikes you as offensive that someone should ask for or need help to get the healthcare that they need?
For the umpteenth time, that was Jezebel’s tacky choice of illustration, a picture from the Cake Wrecks blog of hysterectomy cakes. It wasn’t from the “party” or the original article and had nothing to do with the woman who needed the abortion.
With correct use, contraceptive failure is so small as to be irrevelant.
Don’t skip a pill, wear a condom, blah, blah, blah, you’ll be fine. The fact that this simple way to never need an abortion at all totally flew over the heads of these college-educated adults should be their problem, not society’s.