Right now we have democrats saying its ok to harass people who work for the Trump administration such as going to their homes, refusing to serve them at restaurants, etc…
In a few years a democrat will most likely take over and republicans and their supporters will do the same. All part of “they did it first” campaign.
Can this ever be stopped?
There’s nothing new here; Biden sad booted from a bakery years ago and Paul Ryan celebrated it, even campaigning with the baker: Remembering when a baker turned away Joe Biden and received praise from conservatives – New York Daily News
And there’s nothing new in some Republicans in office and in the media pretending that some supposed injustice or misdeed is new and unique when in fact it’s been part of the Republican playbook for years.
As I posted elsewhere, Republicans are doing a lot worse.
Democrats are confronting specific people in power for their human-rights-violating policies. Republicans are yelling racist shit at innocent people.
Clean your own house, ferchrissakes.
Precisely. The question is based on the false premise that Democrats have engaged in any sort of meaningful “retribution” – they’ve barely scratched the surface of self-defense.
That’s not a very good example since it was a request to use the shop for campaign purposes. This wasn’t Biden just walking in by himself wanting to buy a donut. From your cite:
Emphasis added.
As for the OP, I think the big difference now is the ubiquity of social media and how any little thing can be blown up out of proportion. You can bet that businesses, especially small ones, have been mixing politics and business for a very long time. But now you’re much likely to hear about it even if it happens 3,000 miles from where you live.
It’s not going to stop.
Add in protesting at abortion doctor’s homes not to mention the endless antics of the Westboro Baptist Church such as picketing funerals.
And don’t forget the POTUS twitter feed. Which his supporters defend by saying “ the President has said many times that if someone attacks him, he hits back 10 times as hard.”
You know what? So do I. I know Trump was living in a bubble where his family and employees had been instructed to “let him win”. But those days are over.
It’s like all the outrage over Samantha Bee using the c-word to describe Ivanka. I might have been more inclined to condemn her if I hadn’t seen about a thousand memes, photos and T-shirts using that word to describe Hillary Clinton. If those guys are going to dish it out, they better learn to take it. Good and hard.
Trevor Noah addressed this question last night on his show: Trevor Noah EVISCERATES the Civility Argument | The Daily Show - YouTube
Did Ivanka ever “dish it out” by calling Clinton / anyone a “cunt”?
Eye for an eye makes everyone go blind.
Did Clinton ever dish it out by calling anyone a cunt?
You should think again about the post you just read. Your question is a non sequitur.
Republicans have been doing this for a long time. Go to an abortion clinic if you don’t believe me.
Can it be stopped? Probably not. Both sides think the other is evil and an existential threat at this point, so no.
This saying is not the best one to use when your boss is taking an icepick to the eyes of America.
I don’t recall her ever condemning her father or anyone in her fathers administration for their nasty treatment of Hillary Clinton. Who never called anyone a cunt, at least not publically.
And I just refused service to that asshat Wilbur Ross. Not for political reasons, if that were the case I would’ve done it a long time ago. I cut him off for non-payment, the guy apparently subscribes to the Trump philosophy of not paying vendors. I’ve gotta admit it felt good, though.
“As far as I know” she has not, but I’m not the one trying to justify the use of that label, for Ivanka or Clinton or anyone. Ann is, or at least appears to be.
Any evidence of you criticizing anyone for calling Clinton a cunt then? I’m sure you must have been all over that, what with how much the term offends your sensibilities. A tweet perhaps, or a post on this message board about it? Anything? Seems to me like your outrage is very very selective. I remember seeing photos of Trump supporters wearing “Fuck Your Feelings” tshirts and much worse at rallies. What changed? Do feelings now matter all of a sudden, or only the feelings on your side?
Yes. I think it will stop. It won’t happen without someone who is so outside the realm of normal human (let alone political) behavior.
I am actually hopeful that once Trump is gone, the nation will be so relieved that we can increase our tolerance of people who have different political views. I know for me personally, I am much more tolerant of Romney/Bush/McCain types of politicians than I was before. I’m not fan of Rand Paul, for example, but he’s not a psychopath. I can listen to him without physical revulsion. You really have to sink to the level of Trump, Arpaio or Roy Moore (or those that support them) to bring out the type of behavior the OP is complaining about. I guess I’m feeling hopeful today, but I think this descent into Trumpland we’ve been in will be cleansing in the long run.
No, you are making a “what’s good for the goose” implication. That calling Ivanka names is off limits if she hasn’t used that language.
In order to make that implication, you would have to show that Clinton was fair game by the same rules, otherwise, your attempt at a hypocrisy gotcha utterly fails, unless it is the conservatives that you are trying to paint that way, in which case, it does stick, but I really don’t think that was what you are trying to go for here.
Sadly the practice is as old as the hills. It even got satirised in 2000AD decades ago, with corporations substituting for political parties.
One thing that might help is if the Rednecks (present company excepted 
) could finally grasp that: No, the two sides are not equally to blame.
Here’s a short anecdote that might illustrate what rational thinkers are up against: I had an on-line conversation with a right-winger and brought up Trump University as demonstration that Trump was a criminal fraudster. He seemed very uninterested—knew absolutely nothing about this fraud by his beloved— but finally asked for a synopsis. I spent some time to comply, with links to evidence of fraud. He, barely, acknowledged that Trump U. might not be up to Harvard standards but it didn’t matter anyway: everyone already knew that Trump was a liar and a fraud. Instead he continued to rant about Hillary’s crimes. :smack:
Oh! Hi there again, Hurricane.
It sounds like your latest gem of wisdom translates to “Your side does it too” is obviated (when against the right) unless an exact match is found. Citing “grab their pussy” would have no effect here — to continue the “debate” it has to be the C-word specifically. Citing several GOP politicians who *did call Hillary the C-word *(even though Bee is just a comic), would also have no relevance: it has to be Ivanka specifically who said it.
Got it. (I guess? :rolleyes: )