In the context of all of the other “detachments” happening in the last week or two, I found it interesting that Spelman isn’t ( so far ) detaching in any way from their relationship with His Royal Rapedruggin’ self.
It added more depth, since that relationship had not been brought up yet.
Please accept my most heartfelt apology if you feel that the factual information linked in my post above was pointless in the context of other universities and their actions. I am so very sorry.
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But it seems pretty clear, from your posts, that you DO in fact think that Spelman should dissociate itself from Cosby.
I’ve got no problem with bringing it up, and i’ve got no problem with wanting Spelman to distance itself from Cosby, but to bring it up and then suggest that you don’t think they should do anything seems disingenuous, given the general tenor of your posts in this thread.
Someone suggested I post here about the recent article in which a man corroborates one of the victim’s stories. He claims he received an urgent phone call from her in a state of drugged confusion and he had to go to Cosby’s house to retrieve her.
I’m curious if this affects anyone’s view of probable guilt?
The problem with asking that question here is that most of the people who care about the issue have already staked out their positions and battled over them at length, and once in that position are very reluctant to budge off it.
[Also, some Cosby defenders seem to have bought into an interesting notion that no amount of eyewitness testimony counts for anything as long as it’s long enough ago, and armed with that weapon they would seem impervious to any number of testimonies of this sort.]
I was just listening to the radio and Gloria Allred was giving a press conference with a couple of Cosbys’ accusers and they said they want him to waive the statute of limitations for 6 months to let the women have their day in court and for him to prove his innocence if he is indeed innocent.
http://www.tmz.com/2014/12/03/gloria...ault-accusers/
My guess is Cosbys’ lawyer is going to say he is innocent and has no interest in the media circus and that Cosby will just slip into near obscurity since all his other projects have disowned him.
Understood.
Taking the conversation in this direction enters the very murky waters of trying to decide exactly how many rapes are worth 20 million dollars.
I was not in any way attempted to do this.
Having Mr Cosby withdrawal from a board of directors, or resign from some group, is fundamentally different than having a college that benefited so greatly remove all traces that benefit.
The large donation has made a difference in the lives of many many African Americans since it was made. Who is to decide what that is worth?
And in practical terms, the idea that this college should have to write a check back to him for 20 million dollars is ludicrous.
Having said all that, it cost them nothing to distance themselves from him and his behaviour, or to make a public statement and take a stand it.
I suspect the board of directors of this college are struggling greatly with this issue.
Tough position to be in, I would say.
Cosby has publicly thanked Jill Scott and Whoopi Goldberg for their support.
Bill Cosby rape jokewritten into 30 Rock episode in 2009. I’m starting to think his behavior was well-known in Hollywood.
Is it even possible for a private citizen to “waive” legal statutes? I mean the law is supposed to apply to everybody equally, is it not? Or are we allowed to abide by or not abide by the law depending on what we think is most advantageous for our side?
Besides, how does one prove he didn’t rape someone? Especially thirty, forty or fifty years ago?
I’m calling horseshit on Gloria Allred. This is a scurrilous publicity ploy and nothing else.
It’s just occurred to me that we’re only hearing from women who tried and failed to gain a career from Cosby.
How come none of the many women Cosby has worked with in his life have come forward claiming they had to sleep with him in order to get their roles in movies or their places in the cast of his TV shows?
Yet everyone who’s worked with him and spoken out either defends him or refers to him respectfully all these years later as “Mr. Cosby”.
Even Lisa Bonet, who was more or less kicked off the Cosby Show, came out to deny a Twitter post implying Cosby’s guilt was hers.
They call him that because they are all beholden to him. The show went into production long after the SAG Residuals clauses were in place. None of them ever have to work again.
Even as “just one of the kids”, the money rolls in every month- by contract and by law- from syndication profits.
They owe Mr. Rapey. The women who were assaulted by him don’t owe him.
Nah, I’m not buyin’ that. Their residuals would roll in regardless. Besides, there are many women who’ve had one-off roles in some of his movies and others who’ve had small or one-off parts in his TV shows, and none of them have come forward. Everyone who’s ever worked with Cosby seems to have nothing but the highest respect for him.
It’s generally not a good idea to rape your coworkers or to hire your rape victims.
Oh, I don’t know. If it’s a good idea to let them live with you and reward them financially for good grades or to pay their way through college, why not give them a role in your TV show as well?
Because that would make them famous and their future allegations would be messier. While it is to your credit that you are clueless about evil personal power dynamics, the fact remains that you are clearly clueless.
On The Cosby Show there were 4 daughters. Not one of these actresses has spoken out to support Bill Cosby. The closest anybody has come is Lisa Bonet denying she tweeted. Only Raven Symon has come out to say she was never harassed. The others are all curiously silent. Not even a quick word to say that he behaved well to them in their time working together. In fact, is there anybody who actually worked with Cosby who has supported him?
I also keep hearing this reference to Cosby paying for good grades and education, but at least one of his alleged victims has described him giving her money after the fact and telling her she should say it was for educational purposes, which sound more like him giving her hush money and telling her to shut up about it.
And in so doing, also at the same time refused to defend him.
Well yes. The lack of 20 something men that he quietly paid to get good grades seems more than a little suspicious. The guy shits on young black men to pull up their pants. Why isn’t he paying them to pull up their pants?
Maybe, because his “pants pulling” budget had already been spent to get girls to pull them down? 
That’s not hard to understand. They don’t know whether Cosby is guilty or not and so they don’t want to come out in his defense because they’ll be hammered in case the allegations turn out to be true.
This shows how little attention people pay to potentially exculpatory information in these threads. The alleged victim herself has stated that following her so-called rape, she lived with Cosby in his penthouse for three weeks, that he promised her $500 if she got good grades in school, he then paid for her to go to nursing school, and he helped her to the tune of $15,000 twenty years later when she went to him in a financial bind. (And according to her he did this even though he was resentful that he hadn’t heard from her in years.) He also paid for the college education of at least one other girl, and I suspect quite a few more, given the tremendous importance he’s always placed on education in his life.