Can we talk about Bill Cosby?

Yawn.

I’m sure people around here can make up their own minds about yours and my relative levels of rationality and honesty and integrity. I said i was not going to engage you as a rational and honest person, and here i am keeping that promise.

If you’ll excuse me, i’m down to the last of my toilet paper, and need to go change the tube out.

Hah! I recall no such qualifications at the time.

I do however recall many self-recriminations over your continuing inability to let me have my say unchallenged. IIRC, you were fearful that my arguments were so compelling that to allow them to stand unchallenged might result in someone taking them to heart. I distinctly remember being amused at that because you didn’t seem to realize that in doing so you were actually paying me a compliment. :smiley:

At any rate, I guess now I’ll have to add [checks forum]…hmm, let’s say ‘disingenuousness’ to my rather lengthy list of your shortcomings.

Certainly! Allowing you to bail is something I’m always happy to do.

Enjoy your tube play.

Some of us are making a judgment based on the accusations so far that it’s more likely than not that some of the accusers are telling the truth.

“IIRC” should be your signature, given how often it substitutes for evidence and analysis in your posts.

As usual, you rely on nothing more than your selective and fundamentally faulty memory and end up being wrong.

Again.

For the umpteenth time.

I could demonstrate just how wrong you are, but quoting the relevant posts would violate the rules of this forum.

And now i’m done with you. I’ve gone months before today without addressing you directly, and i think my life is better for it.

Le snore. (Pardon my French.)

As with Cosby’s alleged ‘victims’, you offer no substantiation for your allegations.

This comes as no surprise to me as substantiation doesn’t exist.

You’ve often accused me of dishonesty and been left holding an empty sack when challenged to prove it. I’m sure the same would be the case were I to challenge you to prove my memory is wrong regarding your inability to keep your word. (And I’m not buying the forum dodge, as being in this forum certainly hasn’t kept you from insulting both me and at least one other poster when we’d said nothing at all to you.)

I look forward to your being done with me.

But I’m not holding my breath.

Maybe history will repeat itself and he will be convicted of armed robbery in a hotel room, trying to get back some comedy award.

After publishing a book called “If I did them”

I posted this in the Pit thread and may as well post it here too in case somebody here knows the answer:

What I’m curious about is how all the Jane Does happened to be found 10 years ago in order to offer supporting testimony in regard to Constand’s lawsuit. Did the lawyers run ads asking anyone who’d been assaulted by Cosby to come forward or what? In other words, how did this disparate group of women scattered all over the country know to come forward with their stories all at the same time and for the same reason?

I’m thinking that in some way or another they may have come forth in order to participate in what they may well have figured might be a hefty payday resulting from the lawsuit. At least a couple of them had a history of having things paid for by Cosby years before and over a period of some time. I’m also curious as to whether they received any money as a result of the settlement.

The answer to those questions would have quite a bearing on my opinion as to whether they’re being truthful or mercenary.

I’ll post my answer to SA’s question from the Pit thread here as well:

And I really liked living in a world where Stephen Collins was a good person.

FYI, here’s a link that summarizes the 19 women’s accounts.

Frankly I think Hollywood and quite a bit of theacting industry is one big sewer where this kind of stuff is accepted and behavior tolerated that in any other copany would get a person fired. I mean, where else but in Hollywood do people screw their way to the top?

And it’s been like that since the beginning if reading the book “Hollywood Babylon” is a good guide.

For example Bob Hope, a man and actor I always admired, had sex with hundreds of women over the years. The reason he couldnt have children was because he caught a veneral disease back in the 1920’s.

One of the great movies “The Wizard of Oz” thought to be so family friendly. Seventeen year old actress Judy Garland had to allow different directors to feel her up and was pushed to do so by her own mother and which probably lead to a lifetime of problems.

But then your talking about an industry where easily 2/3 or more of even top actors are unemployed at any given time and there are always fresh faces wanting to break into the business. I remember a girl from my high school who was a local top star who went out there hoping to wait tables and make it big but even she eventually had to leave.

The joke goes “How many actors does it take to screw in a lightbulb?” Answer - only one. But there are 99 others standing around going “I can do that”.

So as much as I’d like to slam Bill Cosby, I cant ignore the fact that he’s only doing what others have done in his business and until that’s changed there will be more cases like this.

No. No. I don’t think that many in any business drug and rape women. He’s not being accused of using his power in Hollywood to have consensual sex with women, he’s being accused of forcing them against their will, often with the help of date rape drugs.

True. He was a rapist but part of the reason the women didnt report it was because they thought it would hurt their careers. AND the reason many reporters didnt report it when they knew about it was because they were afraid of him being such an icon and writing a story which exposed that sweet Dr. Huxtable as a rapist would have killed their careers. Finally you know many top people working around Cosby knew what he was and kept quiet. I wouldnt be surprised that soon it will come out that even the top tv executives and the jello pudding pops people knew about it also. Just look how 50 years ago people were stunned to find out that tv game shows were rigged and they found out that it was a conspiracy from both the tv producers and the commercial sponsors.

In a way the women never really had a chance.

So still, I say that if it wasnt for the corrupt and illicit culture that is Hollywood I dont think he would have gotten away with it and Cosby would definitely have been arrested. Yes, sometimes company CEO’s, sports celebrities, and politicians do some of this but never to this extent.

It does not seem coincidental that Ray Rice punched the hell out of his wife for all the world to see and just got a Get Out Of Responsibility Card from the NFL.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

he is off the Temple University board.

On the other hand, Spelman College isn’t giving back one single penny. Nor are they interested in DIS-honoring the Cosbys in any way. The college has granted both Cosbys honorary Doctorates.

The power of money.

What, in your opinion should they be doing? Especially given that at this point:
a) there are only unproven accusations that are never going to see the inside of a court-room
b) the donation was made more than 20 years ago

And indeed the power of money - isn’t it a pretty time honoured tradition that large donations are appreciated in exactly this manner?

Doing?
Nothing. Just pointing out one well-funded aspect of a story that has been overlooked.

What’s been overlooked? How does your observation about Spelman College advance our understanding of anything? If you don’t think the college should be doing anything, what was the point of bringing it up?