Niece. Or grand-niece, I guess it is in the current continuity. The daughter (or granddaughter) of Peggy’s brother, which allows for the same last name without offending tradition.
They even gave Agent 13 a throwaway line about something her aunt said.
I went through the whole thread and saw that everyone stole most of my comments, aside from two of them. I went to do some errands and came back to let everyone know about Abed, and about how Sitwell mentioned Dr. Strange, only to see that silenus already mentioned it!
So. I have nothing to add! Other than the fact that the movie was outstanding. I wasn’t sure what to expect from guys who are most famous for directing sitcoms. (Outstanding sitcoms, but not action movies.) And, the Russo Brothers came through in fine fashion. I didn’t notice the looks of the actors as much as you guys did, I thought everyone looked great. I thought the chemistry between Evans and Mackie was perfect, and it brought well crafted drama to the movie. Comparing coming back from war, to coming back from the 1940s and how you feel apart from everyone was unexpected, but spot on.
My only complaint is that the movie needed more scenes with Emily Thorne.
Can anyone more familiar with the comics tell me that Baron Strucker is not actually a completely lame villain?
Yeah, I know HYDRA was founded in Nazi Germany but I was thinking “Really? Another evil Nazi? Yawn.” HYDRA is international now and World War II was 70 years ago, Zola is enough of a historical connection to the original HYRDA. I loved the movie and always look forward to the mid-credits and post-credits scenes but when the big reveal was a Nazi I was quite underwhelmed.
Still, I’m open to hearing that he’s going to be awesome. I don’t know him from the comics, so I’d be happy to hear any thoughts from anyone more in the know.
Also, did they say who Peggy ended up marrying?
In the documentary footage at the Captain America exhibit she said that one of the Howling Commandos ended up becoming her husband but I didn’t catch it if they said which one.
(I like the idea that she married Gabe Jones and she’s actually Nick Fury’s mom!)
I thought the movie was quite fun. I caught the Strange reference and I don’t even read comic books, he’s one of those characters I seem to know a little about just from friends. It was funny though as different references to the Marvel Universe popped up I kept hearing a guy about my age (late 40s) exclaiming like little kid about seeing the tie-ins.
I thought Scarlet was quite good again, not sure about the handful of complaints I saw in the thread.
The thing with the Falcon seemed kind of weak. He “meets cute” this fellow vet and it turns out he just happened to be a heroic soldier that knows how to fly using special equipment and knows where the last suit is. That pushes my willing suspension of belief. But it wasn’t enough to hurt the movie.
I loved the War Games line, that was made for people like me. A nice tough.
The lack of calling in more help against the flying carriers was hard to buy but so be it.
I liked the quick little new jobs bit for the characters. Nice to see Robin (Maria) ending up back in NYC again.
Oh, it was just me and my daughter and it only cost us $12.00 at the Sunday Matinee showing.
People in this thread are referring to actor Danny Pudi by his character name from the T.V. show Community. He had a cameo as a S.H.I.E.L.D. Technician. I don’t watch Community either and I was confused by the Abed references as well.
As Ibn Warraq noticed, The Russo brothers must be aware of the wild mass guessing of many fans that believe that Jules in Pulp Fiction was Nick Fury in disguise, and the glowing thing inside Marcellus’ briefcase was the Cosmic Cube.
Oh and now:
Jules/Nick is now roaming the earth like the hero in Kung Fu. Like he told Vincent he would do.
Just saw it this afternoon and I was impressed. A top-notch summer movie.
Most of the points I’ve thought of have already been raised.
I can accept the absence of Tony Stark (he destroyed his Iron Man suits in the last movie so he’s not a superhero at the moment). But where was Jim Rhodes or Clint Barton? And they could have at least given a shout-out to Phil Coulson or some of the characters from the TV show.
There were a couple of mentions I missed. I caught the Stephen Strange reference but Sitwell also mentioned some high school valedictorian who was on the target list. And when the helicarriers were listing their targets it showed President Ellis and some other guy whose name was something like Michael Landis. I assume these are references to other Marvel characters but I don’t know them.
They are almost universally despised and they don’t carry the baggage that Islamic terrorists, the Russians or the Chinese might have.Unfortunately for directors and writers attempting to hew closely to Marvel’s Captain America narrative, most of his villains were racist and ethnic stereotypes who wouldn’t be acceptable in a modern setting.
Strucker according the Marvel narrative is supposed to be in peak physical condition, he is an excellent combatant (both hand to hand and with weapons) and he is nearly immortal. He is also a brilliant tactician and leader. If the third film chooses to tell its story in that manner he should be a match for Cap.
Only that it was one of the men Cap saved in the war. Not even necessarily one of the Howling Commandos.
It was unimportant, so I didn’t really remember it. It was when she was still undercover as the nurse/neighbor. On the way to the laundry, she mentions something about some advice her aunt gave her. Unless you’re familiar with the comics, it’d be entirely possible to miss the connection. They never even give her last name in the movie.
Don’t know about Rhodes but it did strike me as odd that Hawkeye wasn’t around. I suppose he was on a mission somewhere and couldn’t get back in time to help out. Still, as tight as he and the Black Widow seem to be you’d think the writers could have offered a quick bit of exposition to cover his absence. No mention at all is just more distracting than a throwaway line.
“Where’s the Hawk at? We sure could use him!”
“On a mission in South America.”
And the bit with Cap putting the doohickey in the candy machine was lame. How did he get it in there? Why would he assume no one would notice it?
I’d like to say that Hayley Atwell’s performance as old Peggy was really good. Something about the makeup didn’t look right*, but her performance sold it.
*It seems like it may have been entirely digital makeup, which is a bold choice.
He saw the guy servicing the machine…he slipped it in before the guy closed it. And he put it behind a bunch of chewing gum that I personally wouldn’t expect to sell out fast.