I enjoyed the movie a lot more than I thought I would, but I wanted a training montage, dammit (though it was kind of clever to replace it with a fake hero montage from his theater act). The only thing I didn’t swallow was the British soldier. I remember someone asking about her accent, but don’t recall her giving a good answer, or any at all (maybe I was deep in my popcorn).
She gave a good answer. That answer being a sock in the jaw of the wiseass soldier who asked.
Was anyone else disappointed that Steve and Peggy don’t go dancing at the end of the movie?
I can only assume Agent whats-her-face is damn near 100 years old now. Do you think we will find out what became of her?
It’s probably too much to put in The Avengers, but I would be shocked if they didn’t include at least one old WWII person in Captain America 2.
She will have a granddaughter named Sharon who will be a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent.
Cap’s Avenger’s uniform is revealed.
http://www.captain-america.us/messageboard/article1358.htm
Not too bad, imo. I’d prefer that they do something better with the wings on the side of the mask, but making them a detail kind of works for me. I would also rather see boots that look more like the classic bucaneer-style because those things just never go out of style, but what are you gonna do?
GrandNEICE- as to not make it sqwicky.
I believe that’s how it stands in the comics nowadays. Sharon is Peggy’s grandneice (originaly when Cap got thawed in the 60s it was her neice and Peggy was still around.)
Supposedly Cap2 will have a sizable portion of WW2 in it again.
That made me think of this scene: http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/05/03/a-year-of-cool-comic-book-moments-day-123/
God that’s a good comic. I need to buy a digital version.
“What if Bruce Wayne grew up dirt-poor and had polio?”
Mild spoiler.
The female SHIELD agent at the end of the movie, the one who tells him he’s still in the '40s, is in the credits simply as “SHIELD Agent.” But she’s played by Amanda Righetti, who is listed in The Avengers credits as Sharon Carter. So it looks like Cap is going to spend time with Peggy’s granddaughter or grandniece or something.
It was great to see the Human Torch still in his tube at the Expo!
The movie was fun. I may go see it again. But it would have been significantly better if it wasn’t primarily a set-up for The Avengers. We wouldn’t have needed the first prologue in the Arctic or the anti-climactic wake-up-in-the-future scene. (Instantly recognizing a specific baseball broadcast! C’mon.) Some of that time could have been used for a few character beats and the movie could have ended properly.
How much clearer can the movie make Red Skull’s motivations? Almost every line of dialogue he has is about the ‘treasure of the gods’ (the tesseract/Cosmic Cube) and how he is destined to rule over the world of men because he is superior. Erskine has a monologue about how Schmidt is obsessed with the occult and Teutonic mythology, and relates how Red Skull bullied him into handing over an incomplete version of the serum. Red Skull’s interactions with Zola and the Nazis generals make it clear that he only cooperated with Hitler as long as he needed to so that he could get access to the manpower and firepower he needed to build HYDRA.
There’s absolutely no indication that movie!Red Skull is a Hitler-worshipper; quite the opposite. He only used Nazi support to get what he wanted, a fanatical cult loyal to him and him alone. He says it himself, he won’t live in “the shadow of the Third Reich”. Red Skull has bigger and better plans. He’s a crazed megalomaniac with an obsession with his personal superiority.
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Yeah… those 5 minutes of bookends really hurt the overall pace of the movie…
I don’t get that at all. Same way when people complained there was too much set-up for the Avengers in Iron Man 2. Ten minutes of IM2 had to do SHIELD and directly lead into the main plot but somehow that was too much.
I think people complain about this movie being a set up for the Avengers because everyone likes the WWII setting and it seems like there’s no opportunity to get any more now that he’s in the present day.
However, I read that the director left “room” in this story to revisit more WWII if/when they do sequels.
I found the format of Arctic prologue, then Norwegian prologue, THEN the introduction of Steve Rogers to be a slow, halting start to the movie. Then the waking-up-in-the-future ending sucked all the emotion out of what should have been the movie’s true ending.
The movie would have been better if it had started with the Red Skull finding the tessarect and ended with Rogers crashing in the Arctic. Then as a post-credits scene, they could have shown SHIELD finding the shield.
I’m not saying it ruined the movie. I’m just saying that, for me, it diluted the impact. It was an unneeded distraction, as if Raiders of the Lost Ark began and ended with scenes of Indy’s whereabouts in 1965.
You must’ve hated Superman: The Movie. 
Not to mention Citizen Kane!
Finding the shield first was essential, since it ties the movie to something that modern audiences can relate to (most of us don’t remember World War II). And then we needed to establish the villain, which means that the Norwegian old dudes (I don’t think they were monks; the old one has grandchildren in the village) had to be the next scene. I can’t really see any way to have done it otherwise.
That was believable to me. There could be lots of reasons it would be instantly obvious: players who changed teams or positions or retired; specific match-up between batter and hitter with men on base and pitch count; etc. Or, he could have been a big fan of the Dodgers like everyone else in Brooklynn.
That’s a funny way of putting it, since most audiences have never been to the Arctic, or investigated the wreckage of a UFO, or discovered a frozen superhero…