Chicks

I agree with what everyone has said on the desperation part, but guys are more likely to appear desperate because they’re traditionally expected to make the advances; when they do so and they don’t go over well, the resulting awkwardness may well make for a pathetic impression.

I went through desperate periods myself, and then just got to the point where I realized that I didn’t have to have a girlfriend to be a complete and happy human being. I realized that I could even go out by myself!. And there I was, sitting on the stool of my favorite pub, reading the local equivalent to The Reader, when my future wife sat down next to me and struck up a conversation. We’ve been together going on 7 years…:slight_smile:

i’m going to cry now

Hey, Kelsey does not whine. He may speak “plaintively” as you said, or emotionally, or…um…words to that effect. But no whining. Unless it’s Whine Club.

Relevant here is the Wife of Bath’s advice, which is as true today as when first she spake it over 600 years ago:

We wommen han, if that I shal nat lye,
In this matere a queynte fantasie;
Wayte what thing we may nat lightly have,
Thereafter wol we crye al day and crave.
Forbede us thing, and that desyren we;
Prees on us faste, and thanne wol we flee.
With daunger oute we al our chaffare;
Greet prees at market maketh dere ware,
And to grete cheep is holde at litel prys;
This knoweth every womman that is wys.

Chicks pretty much always drive me crazy. My guy friends bitch about them all the time, and most of the time I find myself nodding in agreement.

Like the day that my good friend’s girlfriend got pissed at him, screamed at him, called him an asshole and told him to apologize because $RANDOM_GIRL told her that he was good looking.
What astounding leap of logic did she use to get from ‘a female thinks he’s good looking’ to ‘he is an asshole in need of my derision’?

Some of them bitch about how a girl will tell them that she’s sick of jerks, of guys who treat her like an object, or that she wants a nice guy, and then she goes and finds another asshole and cries on their shoulder about it. They hate that as much as I hate it when guys tell me they don’t like overmakeuped, spoiled, shallow, immature, anorexic mall girlies - and then they go date one and cry on the shoulder of their best tomboy friend six about how unhappy they are.

So, the dudes have a valid gripe when they come bitch to me about chicks who say they don’t want assholes and then go date the original prickmeister - and I think I have a valid gripe when I bitch to them about guys who say they don’t want superficial chicks and then go date one who spends more than her annual income at the Almay counter yet has never seen the inside of a library.

This is one of those topics which has been beaten to death from caves to dormrooms to chatrooms since the beginning of time. Every time I see it, I wonder why these guys who gripe about women who say they want one thing and actually want another don’t just thank their lucky stars that they don’t have to live with such a woman. There are plenty of great women out there - including many conventionally attractive ones - who want nice guys and get them. Of course these relationships tend to work well, thereby removing both nice people from the dating pool and leaving a disproportionate number of messed up people in the pool.

Guys, when you see a woman who consistently chooses men who make her unhappy, run away; she gets off on the turmoil. Women, when you hear a guy complaining about how all women are hypocrites, run away; he will never accept that anything is his fault.

Yes, these are generalizations, but they are certainly no worse than the “All guys are jerks; all women are hypocrites” rants.

Guys, when you see a woman who consistently chooses men who make her unhappy, run away; she gets off on the turmoil. Women, when you hear a guy complaining about how all women are hypocrites, run away; he will never accept that anything is his fault.

Best advice I’ve heard all thread. Some people (male and female both) are drama queens. They think something’s wrong unless there’s a constant struggle going on in their lives. If you’re not one of these types of people, stay the hell away from 'em.

Yes, these are generalizations, but they are certainly no worse than the “All guys are jerks; all women are hypocrites” rants.

Well, it’d be closer to the truth to say that “all guys are hypocrites; and all girls are hypocrites too.” Because as far as I can tell, that’s the truth. How many people do you know, male and female both, who constantly whine about how they can’t find a good relationship, say that they wish they had X, Y or Z in a relationship, and then go find someone who is exactly the opposite of what they say they want? A LOT!

I think the truth of the matter is, almost nobody understands what it is that they truly find attractive. And I think it’s because, like Dr. Drew says, “the part of your brain responsible for physical attraction does not think. It does not learn. It does not change by experience.” So in short, that part of your brain that makes you attracted to people doesn’t care if you’ve had 90 relationships with this kind of person before and they were all bad. All it knows is, “Oh yeah! Ugh! Oh baby!” No matter how bad you know this is going to turn out, you still find them very attractive. And this is true for men and women both.
-Ben