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The most recent coverage I’ve seen said he and his wife may have been frustrated with their child’s mild form of retardation (Z syndrome or something?? I forget) and it was also suggested that he may have killed his son with some sort of wrestling move. Jeeez…I hope that’s not the case.
I wonder if he used Human growth hormone back when his son was conceived could that have been the cause of his son having Fragile X sydrome? I remember on that 30 days show a guy took HGH and all this supplement bull crap for a month or whatever and all his sperm were either dead or fucked up.
Fragile X is a genetic disorder that causes mental retardation–not enough of a certain brain chemical gets manufactured–and it is very much a familial genetic disorder–the odds are pretty well worked out as to how many children are likely to have the condition if either (i) the father is a carrier or (ii) the mother is the carrier. It seems that this defect is fairly straightforward to understand because it is sex-linked–it travels on the X (female) chromosome.
I know a Fragile X family. Here is the national org’s website: http://www.fragilex.org/html/home.shtml Because there is an effective genetic test, it may be possible to wipe out this mutation (at least until it pops up again randomly) if all family members get tested and affected members adopt instead of reproducing.
I have not heard that Fragile X causes stunted growth, but there are typical physical characteristics.
This is not quite correct–if a father is the carrier, all of his daughters will have one bad gene (he passes them his bad x) (causing issues for the next generation–the grandkids) and none of his sons will have it–he will pass them his y chromosome. In this case, since the wrestler’s son had fragile x, the wrestler was not the carrier–it must have been his wife.
The poster you quoted was talking about the KID being shot full of steroids. Whether Benoit had any in his own system is kind of irrelevant, don’t you think?
A few weeks ago there was an incident in the Lansing area where an elderly woman killed her adult daughter with Downs Syndrome and then committed suicide because she was afraid that the daughter would not have anyone to take care of her when the mother died of a cancer that had recently come back.
I notice that some of the reports say this guy and his wife had been arguing about what to do about his son’s care. Perhaps these killings were not merely “roid rage”,
but instead maybe he was despairing over his son’s condition and decided it was “for their own good” to just wipe everyone out, rather than deal with the continued uncertainty and anxiety over what his son’s fate would be as he got older?
While obviously that’s not the right way to handle such a situation, I could see how someone who felt really desperate might decide it was the only answer.
My guess would be he killed the wife in anger, then knew if he lived he’d be in jail with no one to properly care for his son, so he made sure that wouldn’t be an issue. Then he made the choice between jail and death.
You want really sad? There were five sons of wrestler Fritz Von Erich (not including a sixth who died as a child in a freak accident). Only one is still alive. David Erich died of a drug overdose, the other three all committed suicide. :eek: Kerry Von Erich was best known as the Texas Tornado. I think three are on that list.
ETA: Not that any other early deaths on that list aren’t sad, but when I think of the Von Erichs I think, “Jeebus, how does one family deal with that much tragedy?”
I feel horrible about Benoit’s poor kid. He was getting pumped with growth hormones? Scumbuckets!
I was wondering when the Von Erichs would be brought up. Back in middle school, Kerry and his family moved here. I remember him doing a couple of motivational speeches in the school auditorium, which were a mix of strength and pretty overt Christian preaching. He’d break concrete bricks with his hand or head, then talk to us about how he found Jesus and got saved. He spent a lot of time talking about his family’s history of suicide, and how suicide was never the answer.
The man could take a hot water bottle and blow it up like a balloon, until it actually popped. I think he may have broken some flaming 2x4s onstage as well. I remember that the preaching part was fairly subdued, and he said there would be another show that night (same place) for those who wanted to come. There would be more strongman stuff and, I figured, a lot more preaching.
At any rate, his daughter or niece, Kristin, was in a few of my classes (I had a mild crush on her) and seemed like a nice enough girl. It was only a few months after he did the speeches that he committed suicide, and it sent shock waves through the school. Kristin moved away to live with Kevin, I believe, but I never have forgotten that strange, cold feeling when I learned that he’d shot himself.
Looking at his Wiki page, I’d probably have been in the 7th grade when he killed himself, which sounds about right. I’d have to pull out my old yearbooks to make sure.
Kevin is my father-in-law, Kristen is my wife. Kristen is Kevin’s daughter and Kerry’s neice. I never thought I would see my wife’s name mentioned on the board.
The story of our family is sad. I never knew any of Kristen’s uncles or her granddad. They all passed before we met. I have seen countless home videos and photos and heard enough stories to know that they were all closer than any family I have ever known. Kevin and his mother, Doris, have dealt with so much, but knowing Kevin you wouldn’t guess that he has experienced what he has.
Apparently someone updated Benoit’s Wiki page mentioning the death of his wife. What’s odd is the update took place 14 hours before police say they found the bodies. The IP address is registed in Stamford, CT where WWE is based. :dubious:
WTF… that’s interesting. I heard about the wiki update right when it started but it was dismissed as a hoax (much like the gay lover suicide note that made it onto some boards today)